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Preview: France v Australia

09th November 2012 08:08

Australian fullback Kurtley Beale R vies with French flanker Fulgence Ouedraogo

Kurtley Beale: Showing Australia the way forward

On Saturday, the Wallabies return to the scene of the crime of their 2010 humiliation of France chasing a sixth straight victory over the hosts.

Les Bleus were booed off the field by their own fans after conceding 59 points on that fateful evening at the Stade de France as the cracks in Marc Lièvremont's relationship with his players began to emerge.

How things have changed! France will field a starting XV this weekend featuring just three survivors from that ill-fated team - Fulgence Ouedraogo, Nicolas Mas and Thomas Domingo while Morgan Parra and Yoann Huget are on the bench.

The Wallaby team is also almost entirely different with Nathan Sharpe the only player to be wearing the same number he did back then. Kurtley Beale and Adam Ashley-Cooper also return, but in different roles.

Despite all the changes and new faces compared to that freezing night in Paris two years ago, Philippe Saint-André is actually sending out a relatively settled unit. Indeed, the core of what was thought to be an 'experimental' side that thumped Argentina in June has been retained.

At Thursday's team announcement PSA was at pains to stress that at 2, 8, 9,10 and 15 he has retained the players that performed well on tour. It's also worth noting that the midfield is also unchanged, meaning France's most exciting player, Wesley Fofana, has been moved a bit further away from the action and must settle for a place on the wing.

The average age of the team has dropped from 30 last season to 26 this weekend, which bodes well for the future.

Robbie Deans is in a very different position. Far from being spoilt for choice, a brutal spate of injuries over the last few months has meant the Wallaby coach's side largely picks itself.

But for once this year, Deans too has had the the benefit of some continuity and the tourists will certainly be buoyed by their record-halting draw against the All Blacks a fortnight ago.

The Aussies wrestled their way to that result with more guts than flash which is a positive sign in terms of the spirit within the team. With afternoon rain expected to leave the pitch wet and slippery, more of the same might be needed on the outskirts of the French capital.

With the Wallabies unlikely to drop out of the top three in the world rankings this month, France have far more to gain on Saturday as victory will lift them above England and into that key top four spot ahead of the draw for the 2015 World Cup.

In many ways, this November represents the first stage in the build up to the big event in England three years from now. Starting that journey on a positive note is the ultimate goal for all.

Players to watch:

For France: Mercurial Toulon playmaker Frederic Michalak's stop-start international career received a further boost when he was named ahead of Francois Trinh-Duc at fly-half. Mickalak returned to France from the Sharks with plans a gunning for the number nine jersey, where he's been playing most of his rugby lately (inside Jonny Wilkinson) but won't be complaining about being tasked guiding France's attack. Toulouse flanker Yannick Nyanga is playing his first international since the ill-tempered third-place play-off of the 2007 World Cup against Argentina. Nyanga, who takes over from injured captain Thierry Dusautoir, was one of the few players in France who didn't receive a call up during the Lièvremont era but is finally getting his chance. Filling the boots of last year's IRB Player of the Year is no easy task though.

For Australia: Just when all seemed lost for the injury-depleted Wallabies, Michael Hooper emerged as a world-class flank. With David Pocock's return imminent and Dave Dennis continually failing to impress, a strong performance from Hooper would make a strong case his retention in the starting XV against England next week. With Quade Cooper in the dog box, and likely to stay there, Kurtley Beale has an opportunity to cement his place as Australia's number one playmaker for the next few years.

Head-to-head: France have essentially picked two opensides to counteract the Wallabies' ability to move the point of attack across the field at pace but the real fireworks could be in the clash between two bulldozing number eights, Louis Picamoles and Wycliff Palu. This will be Palu's second game back after a long spell on the sidelines and he'll be eager to impress against one of Europe's in-form loose forwards. The battle of the replacement front rows is set to be interesting with France enjoying the luxury of having Clermont's entire (very heavy) front row on their bench while Australia are fielding a rookie prop in the form of Paddy Ryan, who will have a target on his back if he comes on.

Previous results:
2010:Australia won 59-16 in Paris
2009: Australia won 22- 6 in Sydney
2008: Australia won 18-13 in Paris
2008: Australia won 40-10 in Brisbane
2008: Australia won 34-13 in Sydney
2005: France won 26-16 in Marseille
2005: Australia won 37-31 in Brisbane
2004: France won 27-14 in Paris
2002: Australia won 31-25 in Sydney
2002: Australia won 29-17 in Melbourne
2001: France won 14-13 in Marseille

Prediction: A very tough one to call. The history books point towards the Wallabies and it's hard to judge this French side on the basis of their last outing against a third-string Pumas outfit. So many back-line players starting out of their regular club positions is a worry. Man for man - on paper at least - the French probably have a stronger side, but they haven't played together in five months. Despite all their injuries, Wallabies showed their quality by claiming a draw against the All Blacks last time out which suggests they're good enough to retain the Trophée des Bicentenaries. However, after a gruelling Rugby Championship campaign, we reckon the tourists might be running on empty. France by three or four points

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The teams:

France: 15 Brice Dulin, 14 Wesley Fofana, 13 Florian Fritz , 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 Vincent Clerc, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Maxime Machenaud, 8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Fulgence Ouedraogo, 6 Yannick Nyanga, 5 Jocelino Suta, 4 Pascal Papé (c), 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 Dimitri Szarzewski, 1 Yannick Forestier.
Replacements: 16 Benjamin Kayser, 17 Thomas Domingo, 18 Vincent Debaty, 19 Sébastien Vahaamahina, 20 Damien Chouly, 21 Morgan Parra, 22 Francois Trinh-Duc, 23 Yoann Huget

Australia: 15 Mike Harris, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Ben Tapuai, 12 Pat McCabe, 11 Nick Cummins, 10 Kurtley Beale, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Wycliff Palu, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Dave Dennis, 5 Nathan Sharpe (captain), 4 Kane Douglas, 3 Sekope Kepu, 2 Tatafu Polota Nau, 1 Benn Robinson.
Replacements: 16 Stephen Moore, 17 James Slipper, 18 Paddy Ryan, 19 Rob Simmons, 20 Radike Samo, 21 Liam Gill, 22 Brett Sheehan, 23 Berrick Barnes.

Date: Saturday, November 10
Kick-off: 21:00 local (20:00 GMT)
Venue: Stade de France, Paris
Weather: 9°C at kick-off. Late afternoon showers
Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant referees: John Lacey (Ireland), Neil Paterson (Scotland)
Television match official: Nigel Whitehouse (Wales)

Comments

nzmaoriboy says...

@Ozinlondon..."the only team not to lose to the ABs in 12 months" hows that for a compliment mate!

With respect to the recent season record ! The draw for the AB's is an aberration...& a loss for Oz would be? well just another loss.

and it definitely looks like PR got it right with regards to the result. Tip my cap to the poster whom stated France would be harder to prepare for with all their new players. Good result for France! Oz?? well they usually always drop "1" in September! but they will be better for it.

Posted 21:40 10th November 2012

firepower says...

GO THE WALLABIES!!

Posted 12:38 10th November 2012

Trader2 says...

First time for everything - I agree with Trinats on the scoreline, I think the Wannabies performance in the RC was pretty good all things considered, have got my respect although if they could really get a good forward pack well who knows. A bit worried by the number of French supporters who give themselves no chance. Go the Wannabies and try not to get to many injuries.

Posted 12:35 10th November 2012

new_j4a says...

@Trinats, Sorry to bother you, but my bookie won't let me make ambiguous bets. Did you mean that France will win 29 to 12....or the other way around? As always your help much appreciated.

Posted 09:55 10th November 2012

carpelone says...

Rosbif

Never agree with an Aussie. It is a principle. Otherwise, you will find yourself out of your own home. Ankle biters.

Posted 08:35 10th November 2012

Trinats2 says...

The team PR loves to hate 29 - 12 FRA

Posted 03:37 10th November 2012

chisel68 says...

Incredible to see people back a French win. Yes, they CAN win and are unpredictable but Oz have just drawn with the nest side in the world with a (at best) 2nd XV. Im not saying France CANT win, but to predict France by15 considering theyve had 9 days to prepare against a side thats coming off a TRC campaign where they finished 2nd (against all odds), is a little wide.

m looking forward to seeing how Paddy Ryan shapes up (if he gets his chance) against this French front row. No disrespect to NZ, but European sides present a different challenge in the scrums to SH sides.

If their is one sliver lining from this injury cloud, its that its happening between World Cups and gives rookies a chance at Test level. To wheel out that old phrase: it augurs well for the future.

Lets hope so.

Posted 22:47 09th November 2012

Lucasrg says...

@Toulousain lol...very funny one! ty

I believe France can win this game, I'm really looking forward to see Machenaud-Picamoles having some fun around Phipps (which I don't fancy at all at test rugby).

France is France....either they will demolish Aussies or embarrasing themselfs at home. We'll see.

Posted 19:51 09th November 2012

lacroix says...

this is a bit sillyPR....in one or two of an infinite number of universes it is possible that france could be favourites to beat australia. and yes, rugby is sometimes a surprising sport...but as has been pointed out in numerous replies below, this french team have no combat experience and they play an australian team who have played with impressive organisation and determination and certainly make the most of the talent at their disposal. tired?or actually battle hardened? and the french start without a reliable goal kicker.

Australia should win comfortably. if france run them even slightly close for 6 minutes i think that will be very encouraging. its a great shame this int'l comes first in france's autumn schedule. we'd learna lot more if it was in december.

Posted 19:33 09th November 2012

Toulousain says...

i see where you're headed there rosbif. france team = 15 best men at a wedding. that would be funny, but it's uncomfortably close to the truth mon ami!! are we to assume these best men have also been drinking and maybe smoking at half-time?

until PSA has picked the same players 5 games in a row, and he has them more than 5 days before any given test match, i will also be calling them the French BaBas :-)

Posted 16:46 09th November 2012

pinky says...

Not sure why they are persisting with Dave Dennis and why isn't Moore starting??? I'm aslo not a big fan of Nick Cummins........I think we'll sneak this against the frogs and then I'll be at Twickenham next week when be beat the Poms....

Posted 14:52 09th November 2012

TVaddict says...

@ArmchairGeneral

lol, I know what you mean, this is a match which could easy have a 20-30 point winner either way.

I personally think that France will look to play this in a really restrained forward and set piece orientated game. I think Australia will have predicted this and will win by about 3-6 points.

Posted 13:48 09th November 2012

PREEST says...

This really is a hard one to call. My gut says the Aussies are going to win this, as they will have the belief after they held a full strength AB side to a draw. France do have a lot of exciting players, but as mentioned in the article, some are playing out of familiar position. Should be an exciting game nonetheless.

Posted 13:07 09th November 2012

markpat says...

This is the first time in a long time that I've not seen a load of excuses before the game why Australia shouldn't win. Makes a pleasant change.

@Rosbif - NZ only scored 2 tries in that first game, but they wasted about 10 golden opportunities. Their execution that game was absolutely appalling.

SAF showed that that the wallaby defence can be gashed and France have the potential to be much more cutting on attack.

Australia themselves (Mike Harris) have confirmed that, in the wet, they are unable to pass the ball beyond the fly half.

If Australia win, it will be by kicks from Harris. My concern for France is that they might waste the majority of the possession that I expect them to have.

I am really looking forward to the French counter-attacking following the aimless kicks that Australia's tactics this year have consisted of - will either be great or amusingly appalling.

Posted 12:41 09th November 2012

BradS says...

Form counts for nothing against France - they can make any team look a complete shambles when they decide to play. On the otherhand, our line up isn't exactly regular with many backs playing in foreign positions too...e.g. Mike Harris.

Posted 12:19 09th November 2012

Rosbif says...

@OzinLondon, no not bluffing at all sir, but i realise it's hard to pick up such subtleties on the web. Funny, I'm a frog in london, so we have something in common!

Imagine the following, if I may make an analogy....

Do you think when Dale Steyn runs up to bowl at Andrew Strauss he's thinking to himself "well, I'll do my best, bit of natural flair and talent, put my back into it, that'll do the trick". I don't think so! He's got a plan to get him out. He's watched hours of video. He knows Strauss' trigger movements. He's set a field. It's a game of chess. He has to be ultra precise and know exactly what he's doing with the new ball. No wasted deliveries.

There are times when natural flair can overcome lack of preparation. Federer playing a miracle shot even when he's injured for example. Or Obama doing an off the cuff speech. But these are not team pursuits. Imagine 15 best men at a wedding, none having bothered to make notes, or compare jokes, all just "having a go". Would it work? I'm guessing it might be funny, but not in the conventional sense!!

How many times have we seen an England Saxons team preparing for Churchill Cup duty beat a BaBas team packed full of stars?

I think we should start thinking of France, not as a "national team", but as a hurried together mixed bag of really talented blokes who just met in the bus on the way to the ground. We should rename them the French BaBas.

Anyhow, as you say, it makes them fun to watch and difficult to predict. But hard to put your mortgage on :-)

Posted 12:19 09th November 2012

ArmchairGeneral says...

I think this game could end up between France + 30 and Oz +30 but I could be wrong. Unpredictable is an understatement for this one. So I'll go for a draw.

Posted 12:02 09th November 2012

HardYakka says...

I know PR are based in England and South Africa, but seriously, are you ever going to get over your bias against Australia?

These "Injury depleted" Wallabies side have several players coming back from injury, are ranked second in the world, drew with the ABs two weeks ago, have been playing together through the rugby championship, have won 8 of their past 10 against France including the last 5, I could go on.

Sure the Wallabies occasionally implode and put in terrible performance (Scotland come to mind) but for the most part they do grind our wins, and are ranked second for a reason.

Posted 11:54 09th November 2012

OzinLondon says...

Rosbif

I'm not sure if you're bluffing or not.

I don't think its as "doomy and gloomy" for France as you suggest. I certainly hope that the Wallas can suffocate them with their defence but i think comparing NZ abd France is dangerous. The Aussie boys play against them several times a year and know them well... which has to make the job of fdefending them a little easier.

The French lads, on the other hand, are a bt of an unknown quantity and we all know what they can do when things click.

Should be interesting... If the Wallaby scrum can hold up and they defend well, I think they could sneak an important victory. If the French click though, it could be a long night.

Good luck!!

Posted 11:27 09th November 2012

Rosbif says...

I find myself agreeing mostly with the Aussies on this thread.

I'm struggling to see how France are going to score tries tomorrow night. A quick recap for the PR team who are making predictions. Aus-NZ first game of RC. 2 tries to NZ. Both off first phase. Exposed a rusty Beale in one-on-ones with Dagg and Jane. Next week in NZ Carter kicks ABs to 15-0 lead before Dagg finally cuts through. Last game in Brisbane, zero tries were scored.

So, the most precise attacking team in world rugby, with the highest ball-in-play stats, scores only 3 tries against Aus in 240 minutes of play. And Carter is at 88% from the tee. Hmmm.

Meanwhile, France have no attack patterns, since this is a totally new team with 2 light training runs and some video work under their belts. They will not be precise (6 degrees, Paris night, slippery ball, uncertain back-line combinations, etc). And France have a 55% kicker in Michalak. Aus meanwhile have a 95% kicker in Harris. And remember, we have Nigel Owens possibly blowing pens at every dubious scrum collapse.

@PR team. With the greatest respect, this is a test match. You can't back France to win if their only weapon is aimlessly "throwing it about a bit" and hoping to get lucky with some flair. That's just not how things work in the professional era.

I would love it if you're right PR, but I see Aus by 20+ points.

Good luck to both teams. Let's hope for a cracker :-)

Posted 11:00 09th November 2012

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