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I always support England. My negativity is because I think we have the wrong coach and he picks players like dowson who is nothing like Worsley. Worsley was a quality player dowson is garbage.
When they run out on the pitch I will shout for them without any bias. That said I am entitled to my opinion and believe the RFU took Lancaster as a cheap non threatening option.
Posted 19:15 24th May 2012
@jestnation I agree with the sentiment BUT in 1 week, England will be going up against the side presently in the world ranking position that they want and have the best chance of getting. Combine that with the fact that Meyer will not have his (potentially bloodied) troops available until late next week and this match would be too good an opportunity to miss in terms of preparation. The midweek side is effectively replacing the Saxon's Churchill fixtures so there will be plenty of opportunity for them to get proper game time.
Posted 16:35 24th May 2012
Nice 22 youve put up ,but i feel A.Goode will play this Sunday ,instead of Foden
Posted 14:31 24th May 2012
It's just a way to get money in the coffers. these games are rarely competetive and have not been since the professional era began. Only if there is some edge to it do the players really give it 80 minutes, who wants to get injured prior to the summer tours. Not sure how much the RFU are wanting for this one, but rarely good value for money either, unless you want a bit of fun. Fair play to Dowson though, can't see Hartley ever getting the International Captaincy after his regular misdemeanors. Lots of negatives from the likes of duttydog about the future, but no suggestions as to the way forward.
Posted 11:38 24th May 2012
I think TVaddict is bang on the money.
1, Agree that Dowson's performances in defeats in the churchill cup and against the NZ Maori in 2010 were contributing factors to the losses.
2, It is GUTTING that Tom Wood is still injured. I honestly think Wood's injury loss was Robshaw's gain as far as the england captaincy goes.
3, Ben Foden certainly ticks the boxes as far as on field performance goes. And if I say nice things about him I'm actually improving my miniscule chances of ever getting invited to dinner with his Missus Una from the Saturdays. Hope he doesn't read this or my cunning plan to steal her away from him will never work!
Posted 11:38 24th May 2012
I posted this on another article, but based on Morgan's injury, I'm going to change my team too:
3)Paul Doran Jones
7)Carl Fearns/Jamie Gibson (whoever more physical, I haven't seen Fearns play)
19)Jamie Gibson/Carl Fearns
I prefer the idea of keeping some of the 6 nations team in, to give the team some consistency, but giving some of young stars of the like of Joseph and Wade a chance to shine. Plus Farrell needs some more game time at 10, and Hartley just needs some game time.
Posted 11:23 24th May 2012
Good choice to lead a depleted side out on Sunday!! Very committed and was one of the form back-rows in the last few seasons. Also a top man as he was guest speaker at my rugby club dinner last Friday!!
Posted 10:56 24th May 2012
@ duttydog - I love your positivity and optimism! Oh no, that's right, there wasn't any. I think you're being far too hard on both SL and PD. PD is a stalwart of a player and isn't showy or flashy, just gets on with his job. He reminds me a little of Joe Worsley, especially his work-rate.
It's not weird to select a few "fringe" players for a Baa-Baas match anyway, and add into that the AP Final, so many players are unavailable, I think PD's a good choice. He's similar in leadership style to Robshaw, so that compliments the ethos and it's not a full test, so a good opportunity for other players to make a name for themselves.
And to suggest that SL is "an RFU lackey" is nonsense. He's been given almost free-reign so can't, by definition, be a lackey. He's set out his stall and proved that he's after simple, no nonsense, back-to-basics rugby and an attitude and philosophy to match.
It's great that you're able to get out to SA to "follow" the team - so many of us are unable to do so. But I hope your support is a little more forthcoming than your post suggests.
Posted 09:57 24th May 2012
@ duttydog - I agree that Dowson isn't great but I wouldn't say he's England's worst player of the past 20 years. I think Steve 'go backwards' Borthwick has that honour, where he did actually make negative yards over the course of a 6N once! Robshaw isn't a standout player either really and definitely not a 7. I would prefer Armitage, Wood and Morgan in the back row because they can all play and offer go forward
Posted 09:55 24th May 2012
Unless anyone has some spare prozac I think we may need to ask @duttydog to hand over his shoe laces and belt.
He's not Reed, Perisse or Harinordoquy but Dowson is a perfectly decent international back rower, an inteligent player and a proven leader who would have had way more caps if Jonno wanted a No8 who could do anything other slow the game down and shove the ball up his shirt.
The team against the Baa Baas will be a mix of established players, exiting youngsters and fringe players with a point to prove, much like the Saxons sides which he skippered with great aplomb.
Hoping to see the following line up personally:
Posted 09:04 24th May 2012
@TommyBoreham - Only Wales are giving caps on this fixture (presumably to the mascots as well, some attempt at securing their services at senior international level)
Phil Dowson was Saxons captain and this team traditionally has a Saxons feel to it.
If Lancaster was going to select a first choice side (injuries aside) it would include Cole, Parling, Robshaw, Care/Youngs(??), and Tuilagi, I suspect that these will be the only places up for grabs for newbies with the remainder of the first XV needing valuable game time before the first test.
Posted 08:45 24th May 2012
Worst England player of last 20 years. Offers no go forward and often knocked off the tackle. Add in no pace and not an 8 or 6 and finally his age 30+ and you have the weirdest selection of all time.
Lancaster will be disaster for England and the 6 nations after a wc is always random
As teams rebuild etc yet we give him a 4 yr contract off the back of it. He is an RFU lackey. Wales often do well in the 6n after a wc and think they are world beaters. This time they actually have a decent side. However they lack depth.
I am off to SA to follow us but am not hopeful. Not enough brave selections but our pack is getting there although robshaw is not the answer
Posted 01:32 24th May 2012
@ APV1... you'll need it ;-)
Posted 23:14 23rd May 2012
Dowson gets a raw deal because he isn't a visible player ie doesn't carry in open space. The guy puts in a terrific amount of work and is an excellent defender. Deserves to be in and around the starting xv IMHO
Posted 22:29 23rd May 2012
Wood will be out until the start of next season, I believe. Hopefully he will be fully fit by then and get back to his best. Saints, and England, could really do with him.
I think Dowson as captain is a good call. He is a great leader. But I suspect a short term choice as I doubt he make the starting 15 when all others are fit.
Posted 20:15 23rd May 2012
You have to remember the starting 22 in the six nations had many Leicester and Harlequins players. Hence why he was on the bench. This is a game against the barbarians, and I expect a lot of first caps will be won, as a tester for the tour to SA.
Posted 18:50 23rd May 2012
@TVaddict he's out but recovering, he should be back and healthy for the pre season and next season but won't make the tour. Good choice for England though, he's a good leader and gets through shed loads of work, plus he's the most experienced guy in a position to lead apart from Hartley who needs to concentrate on getting back from his time out banned
Posted 17:31 23rd May 2012
Why? He barely makes the standard 22 team and he's not exactly experienced at international level. I suppose there aren't many options really. Hartley would probably have been the choice, but I guess his recent ban has ruled him out. The only other experienced player I could see taking the roll would be Foden. It's a shame Wood is still out, has anyone heard anything about how he's progressing?
Posted 15:25 23rd May 2012
Good luck England!!!
Posted 15:00 23rd May 2012
Good call. He's captained for Lancaster before with good results.
Posted 12:57 23rd May 2012