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Not sure about all the details, but you mentioned loyalty / money keeping players where they are. There have been quite a few players in the last couple of years who turned down higher salaries to stay at Leinster. Kearney, Sexton and Healy all turned down higher salaries last year to stay at Leinster. And BOD turned down a higher salary in France at his peak. I can't be sure of the exact reasons, but they did turn down a higher salary and stayed with their club.
Posted 13:34 10th March 2012
@adamk - obviously a 3 month contract isn't that expensive. My point was a general one. Relatively speaking (i.e. compared with others you could offer the contract to) it would be fairly expensive. Also, bearing in mind the size and calibre of squads in Ireland, it does seem surprising that they can afford their squad. If you bring in international and Super Rugby players, this also requires some money. The fact that many are hom grown is not really relevant. Money keeps players as more than local loyalty, most of the time.
Sorry - I don't think your argument adds up.
My comments were about Ireland and not just Leinster. Certainly Ulster is becoming full of foreign imports. Munster has also had quite a few.
Posted 19:10 08th March 2012
according to sky sports he is going to ulster so can someone clear this up please editor
The editor says.... Our story is correct, we didn't make up the quotes from Joe Schmidt, I promise.
Posted 15:16 08th March 2012
@APV1 Hehe, yeah and he's playing a stormer for bath at the mo. Nah, don't see him coming back to Ireland truthfully, too much water under the bridge yada yada.
@makemehappy Don't think a 3 month deal would be that expensive. Plus where else could Leinster look? Thorn was unique in the fact he was playing for a Japanese club - it's now their off season. Also the majority of Leinster players are academy grown - with White off to Connacht, and Struass becoming Irish Eligible this autumn, that will mean there will be only two 'foriegn' players in the team in Heinke and Isa Nacewa. So there's hardly a huge amount of money being spent on player salaries, especially those from overseas.
Posted 15:16 08th March 2012
Where are the Irish provinces getting their money from? The may have better gates than their celtic neighbours, but this doesn't allow this level of expenditure!
Posted 13:07 08th March 2012
@ adamk - keep your hands off Caldwell! He and Attwood are forming quite the formidable 2nd row for us and I'd like to keep it that way.
Posted 12:30 08th March 2012
Rhys already confirmed he's staying at Leinster, and rightly so. Ryan's agent was stirring up the nest when Fanning probably leaked a convo along those lines - he'll be staying at Munster too.
It's funny how Thatllbme doesn't get a reaction anymore. It won't be long before he stops posting on this site I reckon as he's not catching anymore with his trolling lines. Except me, just there, a little bit... Whoops. :P
Posted 10:56 08th March 2012
Don't be so sure, mate. munster have already nicked Felix Jones and Niall Ronan from us. As for leinster, an ex-munster Corkman is holding up our scrum singlehandedly. So Ryan moving to leinster would not exactly be unthinkable hahaha
Posted 09:42 08th March 2012
Legend that Thorn bloke....
Posted 08:19 08th March 2012
Ryan is not going anywhere. If Hugh Farrelly is the published journo, then you know it isn't true. His contract is up and he (or his agent) is doing what everyone else does nearing the end of a deal - looking for more money from their current club. There is more chance of Contepomi captaining Munster next season than Ryan moving to Leinster.
Not only that, Munster have conceded defeat in their bid to sign Ruddock - they even wrote a smuch on their website. Rhys is staying with Leinster.
Posted 05:54 08th March 2012
Brendan Fanning has been banging that drum for some time now. I rate very highly as well Bitathisnow but I dont buy anything Fanning says and I think its just contract talk
Posted 00:40 08th March 2012
Rhys Ruddock is said to be staying at Leinster. Cant see any reason for Ryan to leave Munster since he starts ahead of O'Callaghan there. Would be big loss for them. Thought Leinster might have tried to get someone like Ian Nagle
Posted 23:11 07th March 2012
I hope your right about that,i rate him(donnacha ryan) highly.Where did u hear this?
Posted 17:45 07th March 2012
Leinster seem to be already pushing through some of the academy players to fill important posistions. a lot of the younger props are getting game time which will be important in the next two years. All in all Leinster are looking pretty set. I'd prefer to see them develop some of the younger players, there's some real talent there that just needs game time. Imagin if O'Driscoll didn't get to start regularly until he was 25 because there was a more established player ahead of him playing center. He wouldn't have developed into the player he is today. Foreign imports should only be a last resort or young players with a lot of potential who they can grow and then who will possibly declare for Ireland. Still its good to have Thorn for the next three months considering how things have gone with injuries.
Posted 17:09 07th March 2012
Isn't Donnacha Ryan being swapped for Rhys Ruddock? that would sort out Leinster's second row situation for next season...
Posted 16:28 07th March 2012
i know there's a lot of drama over the Isa thing. The only solution to it is if Isa re-signs a new contract that takes him past the date of 'no return' for the new NIQ rule. Hopefully it sorts itself out.
Whilst VDM hasn't been to the same standard he was last year I think he's a massively important player for us. I hope they work out a way for him to stay also.
That leaves some decent scope in regards to NIQ. I think we'll need a long term replacement for Hines. Sykes was a dudd, and Keogh and Flanagan are far too undeveloped to start games at the moment imo.
I think Ryan Caldwell would be ideal, but he's contracted for another two seasons with Bath...
Posted 15:05 07th March 2012
interesting to see how schmidt will use thorn. would he start him in a heineken semi-final/final, or just use him as an impact sub? ever since hines left, cullen has not had a "first-choice" second-row partner, they've just been rotating toner and browne. schmidt will need to settle on a first-choice 2nd row pretty soon. i suppose it'll depend if thorn, at 37, still has 80 mins in him (seeing as he played all 80 mins against france last october, i don't see why not)
on another note, it'll be interesting to see what overseas players leinster bring in next season. with sykes gone, white and berquist leaving, strauss declaring for ireland soon, that just leaves VDM and isa (unless i'm wrong...did i hear from someone that isa is coming to the end of his contract?) i wonder if leinster are in talks with any potential new signings - anyone know something?
Posted 14:10 07th March 2012
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