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@5Lock4ward - What on earth are you smoking? I am talking abour refereeing bias and skullduggery. I think the one thing we can agree on here is that South African referees are hands down the best in the game simply because they referee according to what they see infront of them. Kiwis on the other hand are the absolute worst, followed closely by their Australian cohorts. The reason: they referee by whim. You can almost sense that when the crowd starts booing and making a fuss because of a call they don't like that the Aussie or Kiwi ref will begin to buckle. They are also very guilty of this: if they make a string of calls against one team (even when that team derseves them) they will suddenly start to try and "balance out" their refereeing and start nailing the opposite team. That's conmpletely absurd...just ref what you see. I think the French refs (except for Joel Jutge) are the next best and some of the UK refs aren't too bad either (except for the ones that behave like they're public school headmasters reffing a clash of the local kindergartens)
Posted 15:31 02nd May 2012
@kyled please be assured we all know what you say is true. many a good rugby conversation and argument can be had with many good and true rugby supporters. The depth of knowledge is there and the joy of discussing rugby with the true supporter is always enjoyable. it is just that the idiocy of a few is always there and whilst i know i should ignore him I just feel that he needs to be challenged. Unfortunately for me by doing that it is I who am accused of being a xenophobe. However I enjoy the game of rugby too much to be put off and the earlier post I made will be the last I make to that particular person. He continues to repeat his lies ad nauseam and despite any arguments or even a cautions just continues to belt out his spiteful comments. I have met too many Saffas and enjoyed their company to ever think that he is a representative of the true South African fan.
Posted 15:00 02nd May 2012
jehosophat, I've been keeping an eye on Haskell with the Highlanders.
In general, the team has been a good fit for him. Last few weeks, he has been starting games at openside (it's almost as if the Highlanders adopted the SA trick of having openside at 6 and blindside at 7).
His ball handling skills could use some work, his work rate is up there (although not the greatest), he relishes the tough stuff (although looks a little slow around the field) and his temper needs restraining -- but he has been a very useful addition to the team. He's just one of the boys and when the halfback tells him to stand somewhere particular, he does it no fuss!!
Reading what he says about life off the field, he has settled down nicely although it's only for several months (Dunedin's big enough to have everything you want without being too big is how he put it).
Posted 14:31 02nd May 2012
@Ramage - let's talk rugby corruption - and for that Aussie-Kiwi mateship has an absolute rapsheet. Let's take a week look at just a few incidents to remind you.
1. Paul Honiss (NZ) tells John Smit to go talk to his players and then while they're in a huddle says play on to the Irish who score a try and win the game.
2. Stu Dickinson - Brad Thorn spear tackles John Smit after the whistle in full view of ref and touchies. Stu claims he didn't see it. Next day Sunday Times carries pic showing wide eyed Stu watching as Thorne uses Smitte as a tent peg.
3. Paddy O'Brien sends off a Bok player for an innocuous shoulder charge on Johnny Wilkinson and Boks suffer their worst defeat ever. Paddy was hopelessly biased against the Boks. I once saw him yellow card Breyton Paulse for kicking a ball dropped by an Aussie player. Claimed it was cynical.
5. Bryce Lawrence ..need I say more.
Posted 13:58 02nd May 2012
@BokAvenger, Did you really just attempt to separate Springbok rugby from politics? I'd love then to hear your thoughts on the race issue which kept your obviously unqualified coach in place for 4 years, the entire Luke Watson saga and the race quota system of player selection which supposedly didn't exist.
Posted 13:40 02nd May 2012
@sandal, Exactly on the button..."I am sure your compatriots must wish you would shut up.... Perhaps you are not South African at all. " I think he's a bloody Ozzie wind up merchant. I was thinking of retaliating, but I couldn't come up with anything outrageous enough to stand out amongst the Ozzie posts.
Posted 13:23 02nd May 2012
You are spot on. Wish we just had rugby here in Aus.
I would even move to NZ only it's full of kiwis !!
Posted 12:46 02nd May 2012
Lads, Please know not all South Africans think the way BOKAVENGER does!!!! The majority of us just love rugby and enjoy the quality competition from Nz,Oz,Eng,Fr,Ire..... all the rest.
Posted 11:23 02nd May 2012
@BokAvenger so you sort matters out on the field while NZ has to stoop to sending an official to take over the IRB so he can weave his evil magic over all the countries of the IRB. This wicked corrupt official having wormed his way into a top job at the IRB then starts all those corrupt moves aimed against South Africa and every country meekly clicks their heels and slips into line. How evil can you get. Yes we all know NZ and NZers are the most corrupt country and people that ever walked this earth. By the way they have even hoodwinked all the experts who run the test of who is corrupt or not in this world. Hey Bok want some results ?According to the Corruption Index 2011 Transparency Internationa,l the LEAST corrupt country in the world is, wait for it, NEW ZEALAND. Now this organisation did not realise that the RWC which was full of corruption was going on at the time in NZ and the mastermind from NZ was a former Police Officer from Invercargill. So I scrolled through some of the rankings. North Korea was considered the MOST corrupt country. So how do others compare 2,3,and 4 are Scandinavian Countries So lets get to our Rugby playing countries 8th equal are Australia and Switzerland. Canada 10th, Japan 14th equal with Germany. 16th equal were Barbados and UK. Ireland and Belgium 19th Hmm BokAvenger where are we so far? USA 24th, France 25th, Botswana a neighbour of yours 32nd. Rwanda 49th, back to Rugby Countries Namibia 57th and finally I found South Africa at 64th. Now reading how corrupt NZ was according to this self styled apologist and then seeing these figures it makes a mockery of everything he is saying. However I am well aware that the sane Saffas on this site just have to wring their hands in horror with each pathetic post he makes.Sorry if this makes me sound like I hate South Africa,as I dont. I just believe Idiots like this need to be challenged.
Posted 11:05 02nd May 2012
Trinats 2 - Ur jealousy of NZ rugby depth is so obvious!! Ur pathetic and its not ganna win ur country any cups this year
Posted 08:54 02nd May 2012
@Sandal: yes, in SA we sort matters out on the field. We don't use politics to get one of our agents in control of the IRB's refereeing panel and then rig an entire tournament so that we can finally win it for a change
@Ripzy007: The "Samoans" weren't even Samoan. All 15 of them were from NZ and we all know that Paddy had everything rigged to go in NZ's favour. And for the record, us Saffas have absolutely no problem with anyone dishing anything out on the field. We just want to be allowed to give it back. Everyone knows that the IRB has instructed refs to target SA players so our hands are effectively tied. Nothing would give us more pleasure than to invite the "Samoans" over here for a little reunion.
Posted 08:35 02nd May 2012
""You're now a marked man Mr Haskell. Pray you don't get picked for those midweek games because all the boys are going to try and take your head off. Good luck, you're gonna need it.""
How embarrassing, BokAvenger. It seems the more you say, the more you make people dislike South African rugby. I am sure your compatriots must wish you would shut up.
But is that your plan? Perhaps you are not South African at all.
I remember the last time England "destroyed" an All Black scrum. Some of the men in white shirts were clenching their fists in triumph even as Kieran Read crossed for a try.
No one achieves "scrum dominance" to so little effect as the English. But I will be interested to see if England can move the South African scrum.
Posted 03:53 02nd May 2012
hayj05 & jonesy2:
It wouldn't be any fun if they were all as smart as you !
Posted 03:21 02nd May 2012
I bet Haskell is shaking in his boots haha
Posted 01:35 02nd May 2012
The Cheetahs player was also committing 'foul' or 'cheating' play holding him back...so it goes both ways...I hope he goes to SA with the England team...the Samoans show in the WC what whingers the boks are when they are on the receiving end of the medicine they dish out 'most' of the time
Posted 22:07 01st May 2012
Posted 19:37 01st May 2012
I respect Haskell for taking the criticism from the previous England administration and his not making the last Lions tour (which he was rumored to captain) to heart and heading abroad to make his game more complete. He'll have played in France, Japan and NZ by the time he gets home. If he returns to England and can't make their national team...well, you'd have to think he nailed the selector's wife at that point.
Posted 17:54 01st May 2012
So he went off when his side was 30-9 down and they rallied and won? He should go off more often!
Joking aside I would like to see him in the England squad again so it is a shame he is playing in NZ, especially as he had a decent 6N and WC and Croft and Wood are both injured.
@ Highlander fans/Super 12 watchers in general, how has he been playing in NZ? Any good?
Posted 17:20 01st May 2012
BokAvenger...? Is that the one with long hair, a helmet and tights ? Great film anyway.
Posted 16:34 01st May 2012
Rugby is an emotive game, as evidenced by a lot of the posts on here,even more emotive when your playing it. I have punched an opponent and exchanged punches with my oppo...this tends to be the result of an incident either real or imagined and i suspect that this is true of the Haskell situation. Most players who step onto a rugby pitch with the express intent of striking, gouging or kicking an opponent tend to fall by the wayside in the pro-game as sides cant afford to have these sort of loons costing you points. The lad is going to pay for what hes done with a 3 week ban...totally fair, quite what its got to do with an upcoming test match is beyond me!
Posted 16:21 01st May 2012
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