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| Pos | Team | P | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Wales | 5 | 8 |
| 2 | England | 5 | 8 |
| 3 | Scotland | 5 | 4 |
| 4 | Italy | 5 | 4 |
| 5 | Ireland | 5 | 3 |
| 6 | France | 5 | 3 |
Comments
jontheref says...
Oh, and yes, I ddi watch the game. I was there.
Unlike so many of the keyboard warriors who are posting as the game is on, or just after it has finished.
Posted 17:31 13th March 2012
jontheref says...
I concede Bradley was lucky.
Ferris did not get exonerated, he did not get a further ban.
Totally different.
Posted 17:27 13th March 2012
blametheref says...
@jontheref
Besides the 50/50 piece of luck against England, If you can't see that Wales got 2 match winning decisions that were clearly and definitely wrong against Ireland I ask myself whether you actually watched the game.
Bradley Davis should have been sent off for the deliberate and horrendous tip tackle he was later banned for, the words between the touch judge and referee say as much and the rule is nothing less than a red card for what they discussed...Match saving piece of luck No.1 for Wales!
The Ferris tackle in the last minute where Barnes "handed" Wales the match was perfectly ligitimate, as was proven afterwards in that he received no ban or warning, hence totally exonerated. It was never close to a tip tackle as one of the Welsh player's legs was on the ground at all times...Match winning piece of luck No.2 for Wales!
The only defence agreeing with these terrible reffing decisions can only be the Alex Ferguson style defence, in other words total denial of fact...
Posted 10:56 13th March 2012
jontheref says...
blametheref
Where are you digging this stuff up from?
Deluded at least.
Yes, some luck, but not because of the officials, rather the players who get seen.
Posted 17:37 12th March 2012
blametheref says...
Gatland is incredible giving out about the ref, Wales got the luckiest of calls against England and especially Ireland...Without this luck Wales would have already lost 2 games in this 6 Nations...
Posted 13:40 12th March 2012
pierredelot1 says...
Yet more critisism of an Irish referee, the very thought of it. First we have all the English having ago at Rolland and then Gatland is critical of Clancy. No suprise though. A number of years ago he came to referee Montauban against Newcastle in France, being local I supported montauban, that is until Clancy became just so much of a homer it was impossible to agree with any of his decisions, mid game I switched to Newcastle, he was terrible. Admittedly he's had the odd good game since but Gatlands opinion doesn't suprise me.Pedantic whistle happy, must be a school somewhere in the Emerald Isle. Have to say the standards of refereeing all round have slipped. I know it's not easy, I've done it but these guys are professionals and should act as if they are. Maybe they should move over to France and watch some of the refereeing there though, sometimes so bad it's beyond belief.
Posted 13:15 12th March 2012
Chancer says...
Wales going backwards, when plan A fails they are clueless about what to do next, Priestland shaky again, and Hook is not a number 10. What has happened to the half back factory?
Posted 11:39 12th March 2012
curates_egg says...
@welshy disagree on Rolland. Don't listen to Brian Moore - the worst rugby commentator/pundit ever. Rolland made one main error and that was not dishing out the same punishment for the same knockdown infringements. In fact, both should have been yellow. The reason he didn't give yellow for the first one was that John Lacey (the official who flagged the infringement) explicitly didn't recommend it - so, in fact, it is his fault.
Posted 10:00 12th March 2012
Welshy says...
@ boksmashoffice
You didn't see the France England game obviously. What a howler from Rolland
Posted 21:03 11th March 2012
jontheref says...
The biggest problem Clancy had, is his dreadful inconsistencies with the other two refs of the weekend.
Watch all three games, and then compare what they allow and don't allow.
Clancy was in direct opposition to what the other two did.
One his fellow country man, and one from many miles away.
Something none of them understand is the scrum.
Yes, you can wheel a scrum legally, but not by the tight head pulling, or going sideways.
The Irish guy on friday night in the Wales Italy U20 game allowed the Italian tigh head to pull, which led to a try.
Rolland allowed the french to do it, and got PK out of england.
He was challenged on it, and showed he does not understand it, by his inane comments worthy of refereeing a U15 game.
Don't like the English always in the refs faces, but they were correct on this one!
Don't expect the refs to be 100% consistent with each other, the players aren't! But Clancy was way off beam.
beling the first game of the weekend, I thought a new set of directives had come down, and he was the guinea pig, but he was out on his own.
The reason Fitzgibbon, missed the knock on is that he is fat and lazy, he had not moved upfield as he needed to.
Obviously thinking of his free dinner later.
Posted 20:05 11th March 2012
melkdave says...
Everyone it seems these days criticeses the poor referee .Yes they are now proffesionals and yes the ARs should help them more But as ive said before they have aload of things to look at in the breakdown and scrum or lineout and only a split second to make a decision.They are not gods but men and thus will make mistakes and miss things .Ive said it before and ill say it again in virtually every game at every breakdown -scrum or lineout there is a penalty offence or free kick offence committed .If the referees didnt use common sense and just blew up for everything .We wouldnt have a game to watch just an endless succesion of penalty attempts .Yes sometimes they can seem predantic and the game doesnt flow .But then its not trhe referee committing the offence is it
Posted 12:58 11th March 2012
makemehappy says...
@carlepone - why shouldn't he criticise a dreadful refereeing display? How the margin wasn't greater was incredible! Perhaps you agree with Clancy that you can tackle people on the floor, that a professional foul isn't a yellow card offence, that playing the ball after being tackled is allowed, that slowing down the ball at rucks is legal, and that joining a ruck from behind the last man is illegal. If you do agree with him (which is hard to believe), then do you really enjoy rugby with out any flow. I seem to remember Gatland pointing out the lack of flow, so spot on Gatland. We need more comments like this from managers and coaches. This wasn't whinging about a loss, this was being annoyed at cheating and incompetence reducing the winning margin!
Posted 10:12 11th March 2012
NHsaints says...
@carpelone good point, thing is on the day all the stats and commentry may suggest a team will win comfortably or should tear a team apart but you can't put a value on heart and that's one thing the Italians have in abundance...that's what stopped Wales completely destroying them, not the ref. The Italians tackled their socks off but it just wasn't quite good enough...
Posted 10:11 11th March 2012
pembs says...
@JamieTheProp. The best team if all time would have struggled with the way that pedantic idiot reffereed the game. Sign of a great side is to play as poorly sa we have and still be top of the table and undefeated
Posted 09:12 11th March 2012
ruggafella says...
I think I was the only one who wasn't too miffed with Clancy's performance. He did blow up for a lot of touch and go offences but he was consistent with all his calls, so its up to the players to respond to this and be more accurate in contesting at the breakdown.
He saw a lot of things that would have been missed by other refs. He did let the Italian knock on go, but it was marginal from my angle, and I imagine it could have been hard to see if it went back and so he gave benefit of the doubt to the team that were struggling, and had messy ball because of the spill. I suppose the only other contentious issue would be the Halfpenny carding.
Posted 07:50 11th March 2012
Ramage says...
Good to hear a coach referring to the problems George Clancy has in the games he referees. Have noticed this tendency in his refereeing time and time again. He is an average whistle blower who is refereeing games above his own limitations.
Posted 04:51 11th March 2012
JamieTheProp says...
To say this is the best welsh team in a generation I'm not that impresssed! Not quite the All Blacks of 2011 or England of 2003! Still a lot to prove - like beating the world's best and making it look simple, winning multiple 6 Nations and at the very least not losing 2 games in a World Cup! Win the thing and then I will be impressed (as long as you go to the southern hemisphere the year before and beat everyone on the backyard!
Posted 02:49 11th March 2012
Tycoch says...
Clancy was pedantic and whistle happy and completely ruined the flow of the game. Obviously needs eyes testing after missing the knockon just before Halfpenny yellow card
Posted 02:37 11th March 2012
GentOsprey says...
Gatland is quite right to criticise the ref. These refs and assistants (what a joke that is) are now professionals and not just doing it voluntararily. And as such should be crticised where appropriate.
Hapfpenny's yellow carding should never have happened as in the previous part of the play one of the Italians, Bergamasco I think, had knocked on. Seen by everyone in the stadium and watching on tv but not by Clancy or his "assistants". Clancy just said play on! Appaling!
There are currently no more than about 2 or 3 quality refs in the game today. The IRB really need to look to rectifying this.
Posted 01:00 11th March 2012
carpelone says...
Inappropriate comment by Gatland. Possibly frustrated by a decent but not big margin.
Wales lacked that clinical ability to finish games off, I would rather work on that.
The first try arrived when Italy had Ghiraldini out of service. Maybe 24 points are even too many.
Posted 22:40 10th March 2012