Suspended: Cian Healy
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Ireland prop Cian Healy has been banned until March 10 for stamping on Dan Cole's ankle during Sunday's defeat to England.
The 25-year-old will now miss the Six Nations trip to Scotland on 24 February and the home game against France on 9 March after being handed the suspension at a disciplinary hearing in London on Wednesday.
Healy trod on Cole's ankle after an Ireland maul had collapsed in an incident which was missed by referee Jerome Garces.
Although he was handed a three-week sentence, in effect the Leinster loosehead will serve a four-week ban since his suspension does not date from last Sunday's clash in Dublin, but only begins this weekend.
The Six Nations Disciplinary Committee decided that the player would not have played for his province this weekend and that the suspension will end at midnight on Sunday, March 10.
Comments
Norm says...
Put me in my place Makemehappy?
Thansk mate I needed a laugh this morning. Thats a good one
Posted 10:38 28th February 2013
makemehappy says...
@Norm - obviously I need to spell it out - you couldn't argue and didn't even try to argue with my comments, hence demonstrating your acceptance. Simple really!
It isn't always easy to compare incidents. That was one of the most dangerous and vicious stamps I've seen for a while. So not banning it for longer simply condones it, as does arguing that the ban was right. We've seen so many ridiculous bans over the years and this was one of them. No point in arguing further about that as we just have to agree to disagree. Next time though don't be so damn hostile when posting and you won't have to be put in your place.
I thought you'd fall for the old Warburton comparison. Really foolish thing to do. Healy deliberately stamped. Warburton got the tackle wrong. BIG difference between and accident and a savage attempt to hurt another player. LOL - you really did walk into that.
You insistence with comparing with a different incident, of a different nature is astonishing. I will humour you, even though your behavious is rather odd. For some reason you have decided to go back a year and look at a non-stamping incident. WEIRD! You will be pleased to know that I thought that Davies was well out of order. The only thing I stated in his defence was that the officials should have acted sooner. Number 18 should have been penalised straightaway and there would have been no further incident.
I think your rather daft final paragraph has been made to look ever more stupid now.
Time to move on mate, you've embarassed yourself enough. If you want to continue, then fine, but please re-read your initial hostile posting and ask yourself if planet rugby wants such posts and whether the editor wants you going on about a different game altogether! Stick to rugby and avoid being rude please! I've only responded in a hostile manner due to your manner. Thank-you!
Posted 16:56 18th February 2013
Norm says...
Makemehappy
In no way do i admit i was wrong. Learn to read. Now I am going to keep this simple:
- Healy's act was dispicable and he deserves to be banned, (check posts below and on the match report)
- Healy's ban is right and while it may seem light it is not when you consider other bans recently
- You are making a meal out of something which has been dealt with and I will stake money that in the case of Warburton you were probably on these very pages bleating about how he was innocent.
- Davies tackle was just as bad and many would suggest a lot worse but yet I still havenet heard you say he needed 6 months, you couldnt even remember the event which in your apparent campaign to stamp this type of behaviour out of the game strikes me a little funny or dare I say it one eyed. I am not sure I didnt see you on these pages last year playing down what he did.
So the point remains, if you want to decry this foul play which I agree has no place in the game, then do so in an objective fashion, dont call down the thunder on Healy until you are willing to do so across all equally deplorable behaviours. Smacks of you still smarting from the previous week. Healy was an ass for doing what he did and he will justifiably pay the price missing 2 6N games. So why not just dry your eyes and look forward to this weekend
Posted 14:22 18th February 2013
makemehappy says...
@Norm - sadly you failed to provide insight or humour and were frankly completely wrong, which I think you now admit.
More absurd statements from you too - Healy's attack was viscious and dangerous. If you are happy to basically support such pathetic acts, that's fine. Just think you need to grow up and remember that we could have been dealing with someone's career being disrupted due to a needless injury.
There have been worse attacks, but let's be fair, the punishment was very light!
Posted 13:09 18th February 2013
Norm says...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6xxo75RkCw
Makemehappy
My point was made with tongue in cheek and was meant to be a sarcastic poke your hysteria about this event. And you make my point very well, Healy is taking rugby to hell in a handcart by your reckoning and you cant even recall the above offence last year. Fully sober mate, although a stinker of a hangover, whats more a bit more objective in my viewing of the game than your goodself.
Have a nice day bud
Posted 15:04 17th February 2013
makemehappy says...
@Norm - no idea what you are on about! Can't recall a Bradley Davies tip tackle and have certainly never said he should be banned for 6 months. So the rest of your first paragraph is illogical isn't it mate. Bit embarassing too actually for you.
As for the second paragraph - again utter rubbish and overly dramatic. I simply think a cynical and dangerous attack should be punished suitably. Perhaps you don't, which is very sad.
You might actually be correct with your final paragraph, so obviously you must have sobered up by the time you wrote that. Well done.
Posted 13:45 16th February 2013
Norm says...
Lacroix
Do you actually watch Rugby?
Posted 16:37 15th February 2013
lacroix says...
of course he should be banned and because he was deliberately trying to injure another player he should have been banned for longer.
ireland are a better scrummaging unit without him. such an over rated player
Posted 07:36 15th February 2013
Norm says...
Makemehappy
I am trying to remember what you had to say last year regarding Bradley Davies's tip tackle, as I recall you were saying he should have got 6 months wasnt it? Help me out here bud, because I know you wouldnt be hypocritical now would you?
Think we should ease up on the hand wringing and chest beating. He made a mistake, he got banned, he will go to Australia. This will happen again with another player before the tournament is out and probably the same parachioally tainted crap will surface then too!
Oh and reckon Ireland will finish 3rd or 4th and Kidney will leave after the tournament,
Posted 17:13 14th February 2013
bothhands says...
Leinster and Irish supporter here. Healy stamped, simple as that. Cole's leg was interfering, most likely knowingly, but Healy lifted his knee up and laid his weight onto the descending foot and stamped. He deserves a ban if the rules are to be adhered to, 2,3,4 weeks whatever. They needed to ban him, and they did, so shut the f up.
Posted 15:50 14th February 2013
heathy says...
@99call - Ahaa! Now you are with the programme. Your new post is one that I share your thoughts on. Hooray. Listen, I don't want to argue stuff and I get frustrated with some post where they think that trying to injure a player is acceptable. I also extend this to all nations and if it was an English player, I would condemn just as much. If you have played then you would have had a few scrapes down your back in your time. I certainly have and deserved it. Nobody is arguing about that. However, if someone had stamped on your leg in a deliberate downward manner and broken it (I know Cole's leg wasn't but what if it was), you would be more than unimpressed. Please look at the footage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXmUP02wXOk Murray had the ball in his hands (albeit keeping it in the ruck and looking around) at the time so it WASN'T preventing the ball coming out. It was very scinical and Healy has got what he deserves. I think the punishment is about right. 2 matches is not insignificant. Apart from that I think he is a very good player and will be the wearer of the No.1 jersey for the Lions. I'd pick him!
Posted 14:39 14th February 2013
BackingLeinster says...
Healy looks set to appeal this on the basis that the rule they used to move the start of the suspension to this Friday is only to be used were a players suspension would start in the off season. As it stands he could play for Leisnter this week then be banned for three which is a bit of a farse. The bans should be handed out as match bans accross all competitions for competitive matches. IE club league and cup games or internationals where a cap is awarded. If a player has been officially selected before the suspension, for the lions,barbarians or equivelant squad those matches would count also (otherwise thats a loophole that could see them playing during a ban). The player would also be banned from non competitive matches until the ban had run its course.
i'm still very much of the opinion that bans should be accross all competitions and that what Healy did was wrong and he deserved his suspension. But he shouldn't be treated any differently than the other players released to their clubs this week who would have had their ban starting last sunday.
Posted 14:20 14th February 2013
irishinlondon says...
Healy will now play for Leinster this weekend! Bit ridiculous.
Posted 14:00 14th February 2013
99call says...
heathy not that its any of your business but I played rugby for 15 years from schoolboy out until my lates 20s, I played No.8 and have been on the end of a few shoeings and given out a few myself and if youre on the wrong side you get what you deserve.
Your all talking about a 4 week ban he actually only got 2 but they defered the start for some weird reason so they didnt even rate as badly as all of you
The stupid thing is they only gave hm 2 weeks but defered the start for a week what sort of rubbish is that
Posted 13:32 14th February 2013
joekridge says...
This was a cynical act and as I said before Healy was being worked over by Cole at scrum time....it was a petty act of revenge...he deserved the IRB punishment. Hopefully Healy will learn some humility, and always think of the team first in future.
Posted 13:30 14th February 2013
makemehappy says...
@griffi60 - no it is you that is mental! He could have been given (in my opinion) 2/3 months as a ban, which damaged his selection chances. You also, always, unless you are mental, have to think whether you want such indiscipline from a squad player.
It is very sad that you almost condone such a violent and dangerous act by suggesting 3 weeks is harsh.
If you played rugby and you were told someone would do that to you, would you be happy that he'd be banned for 3 weeks. NO!!!
Personnaly I think he's a very good player, I don't think a particularly problematic player and I'd still take him. However he was pushing his luck!
Posted 13:07 14th February 2013
J_HDK says...
The problem with what Healy did was the angle of his foot. If the base of your boot is moving toward your own line, then it could be argued as legitimate shoeing. If the base of your foot is pointed forward or straight down, then it gets classed as stamping.
Posted 12:49 14th February 2013
irishinlondon says...
I'd just like to add in here to all who are saying it should have been longer, look at the punishment handed out to Adam Thompson after he raked Strokosch's head. They really need consistency, it makes it really hard to swallow as a very passionate fan and this 3 week that is now 4. PLEASE sort it out IRB!
Posted 12:42 14th February 2013
JamieTheProp says...
Rucking is now not allowed (unfortunately) but even when it was what Healey did would not have been considered legal - rucking was a backward motion with the boot to move someone out of the way - what Healey did was a deliberate stamp intended to injure a player! That has never, ever been legal.
Cole should have (and was) penalised for being on the wrong side. But that doesn't give Healey the right to do what he did. I actually think the rucking should be brought back (it will remove the need for the ref to get involved at most breakdowns) - but that makes no difference to this argument as what Healey did was not rucking - it was stamping!
I also think that stamping does deserve a bigger ban than punching as it does far, far more damage (or has the potential to) and is generally administered to a prone player who can't defend himself!
Posted 12:39 14th February 2013
kennyisgay says...
@ MunsterRedArmy, really??? Rugby player trying to slow down opposition ball ... theres a shock.
Posted 12:21 14th February 2013