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What is the point of bringing O'Callaghan & leaving McLaughlin & Toner behind? O'Callaghan was dreadful against Hairsprays as was ROG both need a rest.Madigan needs the tour much more. Ronan Loughney has done much more than Fitzpatrick this season and can play loose side too. Marshall as well could really come on if he was brought.
Posted 16:05 21st May 2012
Well a better squad than i thought ,but i echo posters on D'ARCY-ROG-DOC.I would much rather see J.Downey -Jackson/Madigan and R.Caldwell myself .Though i can understand why DK is taking ROG.As to keeping a lock place open for POC i thought he was already ruled out of the tour thru injury ,has that changed??if so its news to me and i expect alot of fans,as to Henry and Boss well yes that makes sense .P.Marshal i expect will be playing in the JRWC which imo is a better way to develop his talants atm ,also most pobibly why no Gilroy -Madigan -Jackson ect.The prop issue really needs addressing asap but i cant see Fitzpatrick and co getting a test start at all
Posted 15:53 21st May 2012
This is painful already. We're going to see the same old dross that doesn't work with "poor" old Ireland down in NZ, when with a bit of inventiveness we could be on to take one match down there which for an away match for any team in New Zealand would be mission accomplished...This said, I am mindful that Kidney does have the knack of getting the team "up" for one big performance once in a while, it is this factor The All blacks should fear the most, that is, if they do fear anything about Ireland
Posted 15:42 21st May 2012
Positives and negatives I think and I can see the logic in bringing a wise old head like O'Gara on a tour to the World Champion's back yard (exactly who else do people want - Madigan? Humphreys? That young Ulster fly-half Paddy Jackson, whose confidence will require a little more gentle coaxing than a tour to New Zealand will proffer?). I do however wonder what exact info Donnacha O'Callaghan has on our dear leader...
Posted 15:23 21st May 2012
@norm LMFAO - thanks for brightening up my day.
If that ship was straight against Wales, then it was going in the wrong bloody direction. ROG was pretty awful in the World Cup and has had a very average season for Munster (a few drop goals aside).
Sexton meanwhile - out of the odious Irish squad environment - has a 90% record (better than anyone else) and runs a much better game.
But sure, don't let the blinkers get in your way, of the main point which is:
WHY BRING A 37 YEAR OLD ON A DEVELOPMENT TOUR? Unless you are Declan Kidney or one of his acolytes that is.
There is no point having a steady ship if it is on the wrong course. Hove to!
Posted 14:50 21st May 2012
Typical IRFU!!! Conservative Kidney. Exactly the same as when O Sullivan was in charge. Results and rankings come first. How is Craig Gilroy not on the panel. Devin Toner, Paul Marshall, Ian Madigan, Paddy McAllister, Dave Kearney, Felix Jones, Eoin Griffin, James Downey, Dominic Ryan ( the answer to the no.7 crises ) Rhys Ruddock, all out in the cold. Promising players sacrificed for results. We need back ups for Ross, O Connell, O'Driscoll, D'arcy O Callaghan et al....and the humiliation suffered at Twickenham shows our scrummaging just doesn't cut the mustard. Glad to see Touhy, Fitzpatrick, Cave, Zebo and Sherry involved but will they get to do anything other than hold tackle bags in training? For a proper tour they should be playing midweek games against the likes of Waikato, Canterbuy and Auckland. A big opportunity missed.
Posted 14:47 21st May 2012
Have NZ arranged a warm up or will both teams be playing each other on a fairly level playing field?
Posted 14:13 21st May 2012
Strange isn't it but when Ireland play with Sexton, Kidney is so conservative that Sexton rarely shines. So on comes O'Gara, straight out of his wheelchair and plays Sexton off the park. We then go to the Heinekin Cup, time after time Sexton outshines O'Gara. Mr Kidney you need to have a good look in the mirror. Also in New Zealand match after match O'Gara has been clinically exposed in the past, is this really the way forward, to bring in a veteran in place of developing young talent. Kidney won the grand slam but has gone downhill since. However I think we've already seen the best of this Irish team and it may be downhill for a bit longer. Hunt the prop is the next excercise I believe, because they are not getting away with their poor scrummaging in the set.
Posted 14:08 21st May 2012
Mcloughlin better than henry, afraid that is off the reservation
Posted 13:45 21st May 2012
Regards the selection, no point in taking these guys if we dont use them. Frontand second row options have to be tried and tested, as does the perennial problem of 7 and midfield.
Step in the right direction but Cork conservatism could yet waste this tour. Take them now play them Declan
Posted 13:44 21st May 2012
Sextons on fire
You probably dont remember when O'Gara was closing out games and winning grand slams for ireland being as you sound like you discovered rugby last year. But then you should remember the world cup when Sexton couldnt hit a cows arse with a banjo and O'Gara stepped in and steadied the ship.
Less Ha ha and boom boom and a bit more objective support.
Posted 13:41 21st May 2012
Any doctors out there??? Ireland need a Kidney transplant and fast!
Posted 13:30 21st May 2012
Its good to see the likes of Zebo, Cave and Declan Fitzpatrick getting into the squad. but I thought that he would have brought James Downey as well, especially since he will be playing for Munster next season, I would like to see how he'd go with O'Driscoll.
Gavin Duffy from Connacht should be there he's had a great season and Kearney is the only specialist full back going seems odd
Posted 13:14 21st May 2012
Declan Kidney - the world's most predictable coach.
Cave has to be tried out properly. Was good again on Saturday.
Good to see new squad membrs, although Dave Kearney has been better and more consistent for Leinster than Zebo for Munster (who has looked very far from the finished article).
Where is Tommy Bowe?
Cannot understand why you would bring the 37 year old Ronan O'Gara on a development tour. There are young out halves who need some exposure.
The same is true of the third scrum half spot. I hear it is reserved for Isaac Boss. Now, I am Isaac Boss' biggest fan and think he should have started for Ireland over the past 18 months (as the form scrum half in Ireland) but if he is not in the coach's plans, bring Marshall, who is the future.
Posted 13:11 21st May 2012
D'Arcy, O'Gara, O'Callaghan,
How does this help with progress towards 2015?
Although by the same logic I should also include O'Driscoll.. but I just can't.
Posted 13:08 21st May 2012
Kidney brings his old Munster mate O'Gara with him...yet again!!! What a pathetic joke Kidney is hahaha...Why not take a young inexperienced fly-half to back up Sexton, like Madigan, Keatley or Jackson...give these young lads a taste of the very top level? Nah, never gonna happen. Stick with what you know Declan, eh? "Oh no, must keep my job for the moment, must climb up those IRB rankings" hahahahahaaa
Posted 12:58 21st May 2012
McLoughlin deserves a chance to go, he's been consistently one of Leinster's best forwards all season and kept Ferris quiet all game on Saturday. He's better than Henry and Sean O'Brien is playing a lot better at 7 now.
Posted 12:49 21st May 2012
Mike Sherry is not any use DOD is on the damn bench for Munster and Connor Murray has proved he is useless. No Paul marshal I mean will somebody but this spastic a clue please i guarantee we wont win with kidney picks his favorites for the squad even when the are bellow par. Off with his head!!
Posted 12:39 21st May 2012