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DavidCartwright, APV1 - agree re Lancaster; my point was that - and I have respect for MJ - despite his warnings, management role, some players still chose to ignore MJ esp at RWC, showed disrespect for him and the jersey. i hope Lancaster has better luck with them.
Posted 08:36 02nd June 2012
@ waitaminute - please proof-read your posts before submitting them, as some of the things you say are outrageously dumb.
"...jumping off ferries, decking fellow England internationals, pulling hair, GBH, was all punishable by a few weeks / months in the slammer..."
Really? You really mean that? GBH I'll give you, but not in relation to either MT or DC. But pulling hair deserves a few weeks or months in prison?! Decking another player on the rugby pitch? This happens in so many matches, if every player who was involved in a little bit of "handbags" went to prison, we'd have none left to play the game. Although it might be an opportunity for youth development, with all the senior players banged up! And I have jumped off a pier, a rowing boat, a raft, and even bungy-dived, but I didn't get locked up for any of them.
Posted 16:05 01st June 2012
If there's any thuggery in S.Af we should assume it will be the local players. Any muppet who thinks the England team are dirty are in for a shock in the comming games.
Posted 13:48 01st June 2012
@waitaminute - you should probably get hold of the following: a) correct facts, b) some perspective, c) a bit of common sense or grey matter, whichever you're lacking (I suspect both, personally). Is jumping off a ferry really a criminal offence? Quite aside from the fact that it was Chris Ashton that was pulling hair, is that really a criminal offence? GBH...really? There's a bit of biffo in almost every game played every weekend the world over. His attack on Ashton was exceptional for him, a one-off, yet hardly exceptional on a rugby pitch. And where amongst this supposed litany of misdemeanours is the 'repeat offence'?
As for Danny Care was charged with drink driving and two counts of being drunk and disorderly; none of those relate to night-club brawling. Perhaps your tiny little mind is confusing him with Byron Kelleher, Zac Guildford or Andy Powell, who have all started fights whilst drunk? I can understand the confusion - they all speak English (well, sort of) and have two arms and legs.
Posted 13:15 01st June 2012
I really like the way Stuart Lancaster fronts up on these issues. That's what leadership is all about.
Posted 01:15 01st June 2012
So Lancaster has a press conference. Somebody asks a pointed question at Lancaster regarding Manus technique. Lancaster gives a sensible response and the next minute its a major news item. No doubt he spent no longer talking to Manu than he did to the others. As his manager he would cover the plusses and the minuses, but give me a break. If there's no real Rugby news don't start creating headlines, oh the joys of public relations and the rugby media with little else to talk about. Next headline SL cautions Danny Care about the colour of his girlfriends hair.
Posted 17:23 31st May 2012
I didn't say for life. Last time I checked, jumping off ferries, decking fellow England internationals, pulling hair, GBH, was all punishable by a few weeks / months in the slammer- especially for repeat offenders, of which he certainly is one.
Wasn't Care involved in your usual man about town loutishness too? I'm sure someone somewhere has done time for brawling in nightclubs!!
Posted 13:27 31st May 2012
Saints fans - what's the latest on Lawes and Wood ? Will they be fit again some time this decade ?
Posted 12:45 31st May 2012
@ Bones7 - Hear! Hear! I agree that SL is going to discuss tackling techniques with the squad, especially those who are in the spotlight, but the case was dismissed.
@ waitaminute - like netball do you? Why is he a "thug"? Because he tackles hard? Because he pulled someone's hair and got in a fight? On those reasons alone, almost every rugby player is a thug, as most have got in the odd scrap and a few have pulled hair. And Care?! What's he done to deserve that (incorrect) label, suggesting he's a criminal who should be jailed?! Don't be daft!
I have decreed that waitaminute is a thug and should be jailed for life. I have no reasons to declare this, only that I once heard someone else suggest it, so it must be true. Or maybe no-one else has suggested it, but it's still true, because I say so.
@ waitaminute - that is how equally daft your comment is.
Posted 11:58 31st May 2012
@ tha_mai - you're forgetting Danny Care being dropped from the 6N squad. That set out a very clear marker - "It doesn't matter how good you are, it's my way or the highway!" The message was given loud and clear.
The squad (and almost as importantly, the journos and public) are responding well to his no-nonsense, open, frank and blunt methods.
@ ZAoorALLES_4E - we will. We might even bring some back.
Posted 10:49 31st May 2012
The guy is an absolute thug. Him and Care would probably be in prison if they weren't playing rugby...
Posted 09:41 31st May 2012
@ NHsaints, I agree that's definitely more dangerous and I know what I'd rather be on the receiving end of. Surely he doesn't need to change his technique if he wasn't found guilty of foul play?
Posted 09:30 31st May 2012
so - no bad tackles from Tuilagi, no biting from Hartley, no swan-dives from Ashton. Who is next on the public 'you have been warned list'?
Good for Lancaster I think, but was poor old Martin J any less forceful re behaviour? "yes coach" then they went out and ignored him.
Posted 08:28 31st May 2012
Posted 07:18 31st May 2012
No offense to the players (as they are the pro's) but do you not think a lawes style leap-tackle is better than a lift and drive tackle? It's safer and it seems to be more effective especially when there is a large weight difference...
Posted 20:44 30th May 2012
What is the world coming to?
Posted 20:23 30th May 2012
More Nothern Common Sense from Lancaster. This should not really be a story but unfortunately England have a history of not sorting out disclipline issues.
Posted 19:55 30th May 2012