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Re : Jack White - worth reading his book . He clearly has a great need to promote himself and be seen as one of the best in the world .His past does not justify this.Completely unremarkable as a schoolboy rugby player - did not go on to play international rugby. Perhaps not important - however the boks have so much talent the coach can be useless and they would still win a good percentage. He is passed sell by date and might want to keep his nose to the grindstone.
Posted 12:22 12th March 2012
I bet the approch was some time ago and is only now come to light .All i can say SL is doing a fantastic job and imo deserves to be head coach .I think that the RFU should be thinking more about finding a good EPD to hopefully guide our young talant to world class rather than just a coach for the national team.As to Whites credentials i can remember before SA won the RWC in 2007. It was a toss up as which coach would be fired when they played England as both teams had dreadful records .Fortunatly for White SA won that day and soon after A.Robinson was sacked as England coach.Whites actual international record of wins and losses isnt very good really he was just a tad lucky SA won in 2007 and made his name
Posted 00:13 12th March 2012
Can't see any coach, especially any coach with ambition to take on the England role. If the players don't have the self discipline or respect for their jersey at a world cup, then it is an impossible task to ever turn them into winners. Too many mercenaries or in truth players the best teams don't want.
Posted 14:00 10th March 2012
"His Springboks lost heavily on a number of occassions and, at the risk of getting a lot of abuse, they didn't have the most difficult route through the world cup with Fiji, a knackered Argentina and a brave but flawed England side forming the knockout opposition."
What ?!? He WON it for the boks in 2007 plain and simple!!! France should have won 2011 on your reckoning...!
He offered his services to England shortly afterwards. They weren't interested, now they are apparently? Ha! this guy's as good as Mallet... BUT Mallet is the man for the job! He's English after all. White could be too by default.
Posted 12:42 10th March 2012
I for one wouldn't want him! He did well with an established team full of stars - we need someone who can build a new team from scratch! Plus it's England so the preference would be for an Englishman. Because we can't have Deano (I assume) we should have Lancester who has been doing all the right things!
Posted 07:34 10th March 2012
"always hard turning down an opportunity to win a world cup", ah i see what his logic is, he clearly knows there is more chance of coaching the brumbies to a world cup win
Posted 04:41 10th March 2012
Bones7 you raise a number valid poinst and it will be interesting to see how White performs with the Brumbies over the coming seasons. Suffice to say in this situation he has made an honourable decision.
Posted 22:16 09th March 2012
Good man. He's done the right thing, and he's done it when England looked like they were about to do the wrong thing.
It appears that he at least (at last?) understands what international rugby means.
I'm starting to wonder if you aren't having a laugh. Have I been slow on the uptake?
I posted more on Jake White's record with the Boks in the first thread on this subject.
Posted 21:27 09th March 2012
@Bones good point but nonetheless SA were the best team in the world 2007-2009 with strong/brutal forwards, skilled backrows and finishers/reliable point scorers all over the backline and depth in every position. At the risk of sounding pretentious I would like to point out the current England team is extremely similar to the 2007 world cup winning SA side...a big physical pack who will be world beaters in the set piece bar injury given a bit more time, a backrow who are all skilled and dynamic (especially on the return of Wood), a ten who controls the game well and can kick his goals (Farrel not Hodgson) and a backline who are solid in defence and powerful in attack. My only lack of comparisons are on the wings where JP was the best cover tackler in the world and Habanna who was the best finisher in the world. Potentially Strettle and Ashton could match up to that but only time will tell...
Posted 19:30 09th March 2012
media speak for "I know I would have got the job!"
Posted 16:02 09th March 2012
Seems like nobody wants the job on mud island... Says a lot about England and English rugby!
Posted 15:52 09th March 2012
The world's foremost self-publicist. Since he left SA, France twice, England, New Zealand and Oz have all changed changed coaches without appointing this man. He's won a world cup but it at least makes you wonder doesn't it?
Posted 12:29 09th March 2012
Glad he's not in the running. Lancaster or Richards...
Posted 12:02 09th March 2012
PR - dont you have to be offered a job to turn it down? I assume the 'approach' was to be encouraged to apply.
Posted 11:15 09th March 2012
SL for Coach!
Posted 10:44 09th March 2012
Stick with Lancaster england. He's your man....
Posted 10:28 09th March 2012
Of the 3 he would play the least exciting rugby I feel, but probably the style that suits England best. I think with big forwards, big, defensive centres and a 10 that can kick goals he would turn England into a pretty brutal and dangerous side. I still think the jury is out on White though. His Springboks lost heavily on a number of occassions and, at the risk of getting a lot of abuse, they didn't have the most difficult route through the world cup with Fiji, a knackered Argentina and a brave but flawed England side forming the knockout opposition.
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