isthatrightref says...

The IRB's anti-saffa conspiracy was always too much work for one man to handle & making Henning part of it is pure genius although I'm sure at least one of the bok-something/ something-bok brigade will come up with a theory like either Henning's the only honest man among a bunch of crooks or he's been body-snatched & is in fact Bryce in disguise... oh well, haters gotta hate I suppose.

Posted 21:10 25th March 2012

jontheref says...

Ramage

I agree, you do seem to have the blinkers on!

never thought you were PoB though, you seem to bright...

Anyway, if you remember what Paddy said in "support" of barnes, it was putting the knife in, it was to appease his countrymen, and that is not what his position is about.

Steve griffiths, who genuinely moved onto better things with in the Irb, his predessessor had none of the self publicity PoB had.

Again, you miss the meaning of his comments about dickinson, he failed to reward the dominant scrum, and sugar coated his criticisms, into avaoiding the truth, that NZ were stuffed at the scrum, by, (on the day) a superior outfit.

As to Scottish refs, when PoD started, with McPherson doing the final of the U21 RWC in I think France, all the talk about group debriefing etc. promised a rosey future.

Sadly it sank without trace.

I rated dear Andy at that tournament, but he get fat and lazy, and now struggles in even the most pedestrian agme at his level.

As to Jim Fleming, you are probably right, about him being the last "great white hope" from Alban,( but wasn't he London based?) after the Changalangs, Paterson etc., it has been dreadful.

Don't blame the celtic league, the refs are far worse than the players, but I agree there does not seem to be any common ground where they can work out what each wants, etc.

Saw Rob Dickson on the touch at the U20 last week?

Is he being rehabilitated after his faux pas in general during his career?

Maybe as a mentor?

As to my abilities on the field, I am happy, the players are, so I'm happy!

Posted 19:15 25th March 2012

Carpelone says...

I have just read for the secon time the list of the nine elite referees.

What??????

George Clancy, Jérôme Garcès???? Did you notice how Jérôme Garcès officiates Italy against England? Did you notice the first scrums (Corbisiero boring in and Hartley popping out and still penalty to England)?

Although I understand Wayne Barnes is controversial, dropping him is a bit harsh.

Posted 18:26 25th March 2012

Carpelone says...

Hallelujah and praise the Lord.

However, he got his job done, sadly.

Posted 18:15 25th March 2012

Ramage says...

@jontheref when you have the blinkers on its hard to write the truth. The problem for you is that Paddy did support Barnes after that game and he made many statements of support of Barnes despite some of the anti comments that came out of NZ at the time. It disturbs me that you are trying to rewrite history in such a dishonest way and I hope your refereeing is or was a lot more honest on the field than your posts off it. Wasn't the problem with Dickinson for some that Paddy publicly criticised a lack of application of scrum law, not his support of Dickinson as you state..

@pogmahone you are so biased about Paddy you would believe and say anything to denigrate the man .I note not the first time that you have done this. The problem with this blarney is that it denigates every top referee, as you have portrayed them as gutless wonders who either have no knowledge of rugby law as opposed to your great and better understanding of such law. Or these men who blow the whistle are so corrupt that they do what ever they are told to make sure NZ win. The question one has to ask is what do these referees get from doing these things? What an absolute joke you are pogmahone so caught up in your own conspiracy theories you cant see the wood for the trees. Is that why so many Irishmen leave the Emerald Isle to get away from you? Look at what you wrote so pathetic posting such rubbish. I have more faith in referees than read your put downs and insults on their character for they have done more for rugby than you ever will.

Finally if all the referees who have been criticised and stood down then we would not have enough men to fill the panel. Perhaps we could then place some of the so called experts on here to take the whistle and join the panel as they have all the answers. What a field day we would have in being critical of their ability and lack of knowledge of the laws lol .

Posted 15:24 25th March 2012

jontheref says...

Didn't really like the blinkered view Pearson had, a bit like Joubert, who looks like he would rather be somewhere else most of the time.

Amazed ireland still have two in there, but being based in Dublin, must be good for somethng!

Yes, O'Brien started by saying their would be video debriefs, at the U21 RWC, (as it was then), but this quickley disintegreated into lambasting the standards, when, he was in charge of standards!

The Humiliation of Barnes, because it was NZ.

The supporting of Dickinson, when all could see Italy had the upper hand in the scrum all game, because it was NZ.

Semi final, lawrence etc., list goes on.

Posted 13:58 25th March 2012

jontheref says...

Sandal

"Concerning mauls, I would prefer to see refs enforcing proper binding by the ball carrier. How can you defend a maul when the carrier is barely touching with one hand? "

Agreed, it is s farce, the so called advancing maul.

Crocodile, like getting the kids acreoss the schoolcrossing.

recently, in one 6N game, he front 4 broke off in front of the pod with the ball, obstructed the 2nd wave of defence, and the defence got penalised.

With officiating like that, why not make PK's 5 ponts?

:-)

Posted 09:06 25th March 2012

mikeNZ1 says...

Oh no! Without Paddy & PDV around who will SA blame now when things go wrong?

Posted 07:59 25th March 2012

rockman says...

Wayne Barnes is the worst ref to ever take on an international match, woeful pudgy and clueless.

Posted 03:11 25th March 2012

sandal says...

Some of these movements smack of populism. But I suppose we should be pleased that the likes of Wayne Barnes do not have jobs for life after all.

I am pleased to see Steve Walsh retained. He refereed a terrific game between France and England in the World Cup quarterfinal (meaning he enabled the game). And though he is a pet hate of English fans, I noted that many of them praised his handling of the recent England-Wales test. He refs a good game, communicates well, is popular with the players and has admirers outside his native NZ. This is quite a comeback for a man who did have personal problems.

I note that there are two Kiwis, two Jaffers, a couple of Frenchmen, two Irishmen and a Welshman. No Englishmen and no Scots. I have nothing against Scotland but, by god, that country has produced some terrible refs in the past 20 years. Thank god we no longer have reciprocation.

Concerning mauls, I would prefer to see refs enforcing proper binding by the ball carrier. How can you defend a maul when the carrier is barely touching with one hand?

Posted 02:18 25th March 2012