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homergriffin says...

darthbok that was absolutely hilarious. Good job my man

Posted 00:20 22nd February 2012

quietbrit says...

Why not give the TMO the ability to tell the Ref that something happened and who did it for Yellow and Red card offenses, then bin the offender at the next break in play. If you loose your player to the bin but don't ship a penalty it is still mostly fair and doesn't disrupt the flow of the game.

Posted 22:20 21st February 2012

NHsaints says...

Good Idea, now stuff like the rougerie on mccaw won't go unpunished...

Posted 19:07 21st February 2012

darthbok says...

Just on the white card thing -----doesnt showing the white card mean `I surrender` -- that would be fantastic! --the ref surrenders and the rest of the game is a brilliant free for all bust-up ---and the crowd can get involved too --------

Posted 18:11 21st February 2012

darthbok says...

instead of a card , get some white spray paint, and paint around bodies in the crime scene-- then we could have a spin-off show called CSI -rugby --where top cops, geeky computer girls , and tired detectives with mirky pasts could get together and painstakingly recreate the events leading up to the scene, and just when you thought you knew who did it , they reveal the player was downed by a blind pigeon with tuberclosis who lost its beak which became jammed in a players windpipe, in the middle of tackling someone, hence losing contol of the player , resulting in a spear tackle. TAHDAH!

Posted 18:08 21st February 2012

davodiablo says...

Well its an experiment . Why don't we just just be patient and see if it works?

Having one citing officer for the whole comp is probably the best idea introduced for this season.

Posted 17:30 21st February 2012

APV1 says...

@ (the learned) RugbyRefs - why does there appear to be a reluctance to utilise the forth official more? Any ideas? I, and others, have basically got the idea that they could either officiate a "white card" situation at the behest of the on-field ref / touch judges, but also bring the on-field ref's attention to something that the other three have missed. There is the technology-availability issue (it's all there) and the "fairness" issue (an offending team is punished more appropriately and immediately), so why not?

They're being paid to sit in a booth watching a game of rugby, just in case there's a question mark over the touchline. What a waste of a resource. (Although, is there an application form I can complete as, having just looked at it like that, it's a pretty cushy job!?)

Posted 16:32 21st February 2012

howrtings says...

@ RugbyRefs:

Give people a bit of credit, we don't all have the memory span of a gold fish!!

If something serious happens on the pitch that's missed, i'm sure the parties involved would be able to remember....

Posted 16:26 21st February 2012

howrtings says...

Cop out!!!

Matches are to be adjudicated on during the match not afterwards. If there were missed instances during the game, then that's what the citing commisioner is for.

Instead of taking the pressure off the ref, we should be shining a light on some of the useless refereeing performances were seeing at the very highest level. Roman Poite for example in the wales scotland game....he needs alot more that a white card!!!!

Posted 16:23 21st February 2012

RugbyRefs says...

@StartledWombat. It would have indeed fixed the problem with the eye gouge as McCaw would have had the ability to let the ref know and the ref would have held up the white card to let the citing officer know to look closer for what the problem was.

It allows a bit of a 2 way process between the Captain & the Ref while the issue is fresh on their minds, not hours afterwards when they may have forgotten, or got swept up in the emotion of the win and forget to report it.

Posted 15:00 21st February 2012

turboboy says...

If anyone watches Superleague in Britain they will see that the same thing will happen here. The offending team will get the benefit of the player staying on the pitch and will be banned for future games. The following weeks the offending team don't have to start with 14 players and on match day there is no benefit to a team. Stupid rule just give each team the chance to submit a report up to 24hrs after the game for the citing commissioner to review with TV footage - easy.

Posted 14:05 21st February 2012

spliffed says...

Perhaps the TMO should earn his/her money ? The citing comission will be looking at the same footage available to the TMO. It seems the powers that be are hell bent on turning what used to be a very simple game into a quagmire of rules.. A player is already put on 'report' as soon as he is yellow/red carded and even warned. also the oppostion can have a player cited. So why the extra level that basically excists already? Entertainment? Something to appease the crowd when the only people in the stadium who dont see instances of foul play appear to be the three officials? Officials guessing rather than doing their jobs? Or is this constant tinkering with the rules the various rugby board members trying to show us they are worth the huge salaries they get? Yep I'm a cynic. Can we just get back to playing rugby again? Cant wait for Friday

Posted 13:59 21st February 2012

melkdave says...

I dont really think a white card is going to change the situation in any way .The citing commisioner already uses all the technology available when he reviews the game.Asking the TMO to look at a specfic incident when foul play is suspected and then recommend a action to the referee would be easier and better imo .As action / justice would be deliverd in game if warrented and thus affect the game correctly.All a white card will do is allow a guilty player to stay on the pitch and doesnt punish him or his team durng the match .But rather after where his team can then take steps to cancel it out by using a replacement player for how long his suspended for. Given the modern practice of player rotation chances are he wouldnt play all the games during his suspension away

Posted 13:12 21st February 2012

APV1 says...

Why aren't they extending the powers of the forth official? Many examples of three pairs of eyes missing something that we all easily see on the tv are available. Why can't the video ref make a call from their perch, with all of the technology and camera angles available to them, and speak to the on-field ref throught the earpiece already in place?

I'm not saying that the white card shouldn't be trialled, but we have the personnel and technology already pitch-side, so let's use it. And if it's not available, make it so.

Posted 11:44 21st February 2012

J_HDK says...

@startledwombat

I completely agree and also that unnamed NZ player that struck Morgan Parra in the head with a knee taking him out of the RWC show piece

Posted 10:53 21st February 2012

Chancer says...

A massive cop out, referees should be guided to enforce the existing rules, they already have 'touch judges' to assist, if three pairs of eyes aren't enough then some of those eyes are looking in the wrong direction. This will not help when non of the officials see anything, as in the recent Sarries Leicester lash up.

Posted 10:44 21st February 2012

jose_jones says...

I think this is a very good idea... although having the citing comissioner/officer(s),.. actually doing their job and following the game rather than grudgingly waking up when prompted by club staff, player or press who may or may not have seen something, might also be a nice idea...

Posted 09:57 21st February 2012

startledwombat says...

Fair enough, to cover off the situation where the referee knew something had happened but missed the perpetrator.

Another situation needs to be fixed - where the referee missed the foul play completely. The white card will not address the eye gouge on McCaw in the showpiece World Cup Final. The procedures and silly red tape that prevented the French player from being punished, need to be changed too.

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@ Riverblues

- all joking aside, my understanding is that is that the days of gifts and gratuities to referees are long gone. The practice was badly tarnished with the payments to the referee when the New Zealand rebels toured South Africa in the mid-eighties, and Luis Luyt put the nail in the coffin with his "let's give the gold watch of thanks during the post-match dinner" after the 1995 World Cup.

In fairness, New Zealanders don't have a track record of thinking in such ways, nor of having the resources to do it. The BNZ has been bailed out by their government at least twice, and was later sold off; it is now owned by Australians.

Posted 09:49 21st February 2012

Piotr says...

how a brown card when the players get dirty with mud and their numbers cannot be read from afar.

Posted 09:40 21st February 2012

rugby_rockstar says...

If rugby league refs can put players on report by crossing their arms above their heads why does South Africa New Zealand (Who ought to know better given their environmental stance) and Australia feel the need to cut down trees to make some stupid white cards?

Posted 09:39 21st February 2012

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