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Comments
7ton says...
Thank you PR you have answered my and many others questions in regard to the rules re the lineout well in this weeks "Loose Pass"
Ireland were very hard done by. The try should not have been allowed and it seems incredible that the ref or linesman didn't notice or take account of the fact that the ball came into contact with the crowd and the ball boy even if they didn't notice it was a different ball.
Well nobody is perfect and I suppose and it's a lot easier to sit back and criticize after the event than to make decisions under pressure in the heat of the moment.
Fortunately it's just a game
Posted 20:49 15th March 2011
blametheref says...
Kidney's mindset: when asked by a journalist about Luke Fitzgerald's apalling performances in all of Ireland's matches so far, he replied "Ah no, that's what I'm saying about people settling in. They put up a lot of high ball to us (Hmm, I wonder why, Deccie?) and it's a while since he's played full back (Em, Tommy Bowe can play at 15, Declan!) and it's something he's getting better at (No, Declan, he's getting worse in fact!) and I presume he will so again next week." So, at the after match interview the usually cautious on naming selections Kidney says he is playing probably the worst player on the field and at full back in this 6 nations against the strongest team Ireland will meet, England! Unbelivable!!! Is it no wonder Ireland are going nowhere!
Posted 11:27 15th March 2011
blametheref says...
Forget the try issue...Ireland haven't played one decent game in this 6 nations, this is very worrying as at least under O' Sullivan and Gatland Ireland's problem was stringing consecutive good performances together. Under Kidney Ireland have not put in a decent performance for over 9 international matches, very very worrying, especially when Ireland have the players available to put in decent performances and compete with the best...I hate to say this, but it would be better England thrashed Ireland in the final match. A win against England will have Kidney saying that they are on the right track etc and all that Kidney waffle. A closely lost match for Ireland will having him saying the same thing...I would like to see Kidney gone, resign, sacked, after we get thumped by England...Unfortunately, this is the only way forward for Ireland as Kidney has knocked the confidence of this talented bunch of players!
Posted 08:26 15th March 2011
blametheref says...
7tons point is a good one...It seemed more that Kaplan was annoyed with his authority being questioned by the Irish players protests than anything else and because of this more or less punished them by not giving the try issue enough time or thought...A less ambigous question would have been "was it the same ball that went out of play that he scored the try with?" It really is the linesman's prime duty to establish the status of a ball sent to touch, I don't blame Kaplan as he relies on his touch judges for this facet of play...The linesman must have been asleep and it's unforgivable to make such an error at this level as the Irish players were not ready for a quick throw as they knew that it was not an option, the Irish players spotted the error immediately. In my opinion the linesman knew he did not know what happened and was afraid to lose face by simply saying "I don't know"
Posted 07:51 15th March 2011
7ton says...
I think benski and crusaderwood raise a very interesting point.
In addition to a quick throw in is there such a thing as a quick lineout and do the laws vary between them?
Was the lineout formed or not? It didn't appear to be formed to me but I am not an expert on the rules and I would be grateful if perhaps PR were to explain what are the actual criteria the laws dictate for a lineout to be classed as formed.
What would be really interesting to know is did the referee and/or the linesman regard the lineout as having been formed.
As far as I know a quick throw in can only be taken if the ball did not come into contact with anyone other than a player therefore even if it had of been the same ball a quick throw in could not have been taken as it went into the crowd and the ball boy handed it to the Welsh hooker. I appreciate they have a difficult job but surely the linesman and/or the ref should have seen that.
After the try when Kaplan consulted the linesman it sounded like the linesman was trying to explain something about the lineout and Kaplan then asked him "Was it the correct ball". He did not ask if it was the original ball.
If the Linesman (rightly or wrongly) considered the lineout had been formed then he was right to consider it was the correct ball.
One could also speculate that if Kaplan thought the lineout wasn't formed and it was a quick throw in then he could have asked if the ball had come into contact with someone other than a player.
It would be really interesting to hear their take on this.
Posted 00:57 15th March 2011
blametheref says...
When Heaslip's being asked to play like Denis Leamy (of 3 years ago form) is it a surprise that he makes no impact on a Kidneymunsteresque team...Is it now just obvious that Paddy Wallace has nothing to offer this team, he had only a simple 5yd pass to Earls in the dying moments and Earls was clear in with a match winning try if converted, instead Wallace tried to do a BOD cut inside and got nailed ball and man. If you ask me he was trying to get the glory to answer his critics and effectively cost Ireland the match.. As said many times, Fitzgerald should not be on this team. Put Bowe or D'arcy at full back, bring Downey and Mc Fadden into the frame, Varely at hooker, Cullen and O' Connell with Tuohy/Toner on the bench depending on opposition line out strength. Kidney has achieved what I thought by dropping Sexton 2 matches ago and has in fact knocked the confidence and faith being selected as first choice would have given him out him, it showed! Again, Kidney has humiliated Cullen by giving him under 5 minutes on the pitch...My view is that Kidney is stuck in the Munster era and is a one trick pony who doesn't have the nous or experience to get a really talented backline humming, he has his players playing like rabbits in the headlights, uncertain, afraid to make a mistake, too tight a game plan!
Posted 18:44 14th March 2011
adamk says...
What's with all these angry Boks comments? No one is having a go at the Welsh for chancing their arm - the frustration is with how it was [badly] ref'ed.
Boohoo John Smit etc., etc. O'Gara did well to take the opportunity, as did Rees on Saturday. It's up to the ref to keep an eye on the ball, and stop the infractions as he sees them.
Cheating is part of all games, unfortunately it happens, if it wasn't we wouldn't have a referee, and if you want to start landing blows on the fairness of players, then really the Boks don't have a leg to stand on...
Posted 14:18 14th March 2011
Ramage says...
Isnt it amazing the saffas are still moaning about an earlier ruling against them so therefore in their silly bokkie minds its fair enough for this to happen. Rubbish just as it was unacceptable then it is unacceptable now and the arrogant Kaplan and the incompetent Allen need to be stood down. It just shows how arrogant referees are becoming where they fail to listen to the captains before they go and award the try. Similar to Honis not giving Smith the time Kaplan's refusal to talk to ODriscoll reeks of arrogance. Just shows Saffas make mistakes too. International sides should not have to put up with this incompetence from another hopeless Scottish referee placed on touch as none are good enough to referee at the top level. But Kaplan too must shoulder some of the blame and just shows how referees are leaning too much on there assistants. So Paddy what have you got to say 2 weeks stand down for Kaplan 4 for Allen?
Posted 13:05 14th March 2011
philgrefnerd says...
Whining unseemly in any case, but there is a second error in law by Mr Kaplan and team that means the try should have been disallowed. Law 19.2 (b) states the quick throw in must occur between the place the ball went in to touch and the throwing team's goalline - that means thirty meters back up field, a quick throw can't be taken at the place that the set lineout would occur. The line of touch for the lineout is not the same place as where the ball went into touch when there is no gain in ground for the kicking team...
Posted 11:31 14th March 2011
spike19 says...
Its a shame I think this 6 nations was a missed opportunity. Looking at the games we lost to France and Wales we were more effective in attack and gave away too many silly pens. With better man management and a selection policy based on form instead of past loyalties Ireland could have been heading into a home grand slam game against England with all to play for. Instead Kidney is staring into the abyss, with 2 wins, 2 loses and not one complete performance. Surely it would have been advantageous to cap some of our young stars like Omalley, D Ryan, McLaughlin, Ruddock, Spence, Faloon, Tuohy, Mc Allister, Jamie Hagen, Keatly, Johne Murphy, Mc Fadden. What a great chance to showcase some of these young players and get them some experience even if they had of lost a few at least they'd be building for the future. Kidney has applied the seniority rule which is absurd in the modern game, he'll pick the same team for england, conservatism has no place in rugby today.
Posted 10:08 14th March 2011
sandal says...
Not a very classy moment from BOD.
Posted 04:53 14th March 2011
robo says...
stuart10
Kaplan consulted the linesman who said the ball used was the one that went out. The linesman was wrong, but, as others have pointed out, the Irish should suck it up. I haven't forgotten Rona O'Gara's farce of a try a few years ago. It helped Ireland beat the Boks. Paul Honiss was the clot of a ref that day, compounding his mistake or nastiness when allowing the Irish to infringe time and again when the Boks were pounding the Irish try-line. O'Gara, who I regard as a fine player, didn't win an bouquets from me that day when afterwards insisting that Ireland had won fair and square. Drivel! So BOD, take it on the chin, chum, or look like a whiner.
Posted 22:37 13th March 2011
ciaranbrk says...
Oh shut up when u get screwed over ur pissed off and it is an awful error i personaly think everyone bar o gara earls o brien and o driscoll should hang there heads in shame. We have to get rid of Kidney and bring in a coach who will run the ball like Joe Shmidt. No offence but I dont care what saffers think.You have ur own problems to deal with so I suguest u do and get rid of ur own coach that clown De viliers but also some of ur players are like the Irish players dinosaurs considering the awful tri nations you had last year. I personaly believe Paddy Wallace should never be alowd to wear the jersey after the 09 season where he gave stephan jones that penetly that could have cost us the grand slam. Kidney has to fix that mediocre bench. I personaly think he has to go though. He is pickin on reputation not on form and that cant be tolerated.
Posted 15:51 13th March 2011
crunchfit says...
suntzu
Phillips was not in the line and the Irish players were walking over to form the line out. The ball was thrown (not straight and Rees was in the field of play) and Phillips ran onto it. Also, I don't think Rees is included in the players needed to form the line out so they don't have any players in the line out.
Posted 15:11 13th March 2011
crunchfit says...
BOD did not call some sort of press conference to complain. He was asked questions about the incident by the interviewer post match. The game was robbed from him and his team. I'd be fairly pissed off.
Posted 14:38 13th March 2011
scrumdog says...
Unfortunate run of luck for Ireland this 6N but the team will come good at RWC time and will have specialist fullbacks on hand. Move on and take England down at Lansdowne Rd.
Posted 13:13 13th March 2011
setanta78 says...
Completely agree Cymru. This wont have any bearing on relations with our celtic cousins. They kicked their points, rode their luck and closed the game out well, so congrats guys. As an Irish fan I have nothing but good memories of cardiff and the banter with welshies. Besides its only a game, not a war, so we won't be recalling our ambassador just yet :)
I want to point out too that the issue of the bad call should not detract from yet another abject performance by Ireland. Being an Ireland fan these days invovles a fair amount of masochism, because they are simply torture to watch. They gifted wales easy points, they butchered their own chances (Paddy Wallace should be put in stocks on public display in the middle of belfast and left there) and they kicked appallingly.
But on to crna-mikes comment. This wasnt simply a run of the mill "bad call". If the try came from a pass thats slightly forward or whatever, fine it happens. Officials are not perfect and the ref cant see everything. But this was inexcusable. Look at the replay. Seriously, just look at the replay. The linesman was standing a few feet from the player. HOW COULD HE NOT SEE IT????? Defies comprehension.
Its easy to be blase and say bad calls happen. Of course they do. But this was a humdinger of a bad call that decided a game. It gifted Wales 7 points and Ireland lost by six. Doesn't take a genius to see it was the deciding factor. How the hell can this happen in a televised game, where you have action replay screens in the ground, a referee, 2 linesman AND the benefit of a 4th official? Utter imcompetence.
Zandman, don't compare a friendly match with a competitive fixture. Its nonsensical. Friendlies dont matter a damn. When a call like that costs your team the game in the world cup, I am quite sure you and your countrymen will not be slow to voice your disgust.
Posted 12:57 13th March 2011
spike19 says...
It was a tough call for the Irish but although it was a huge mistake by the touch judge it should not hide the glaring issues in the ireland camp. Yes its time for a shake up something needs to change. But who will make way for the new blood? That is a matter of opinion and mine is as follows. In the second row Dan Tuohy in for O'Callaghan and Mc Fadden in for D'arcy at centre. Our Midfield has looked blunt throughout the 6 nations and needs desperately needs a spark. I think Tuohy adds more physicality he is an exciting ball carrier as well as being good line out option. D'arcy has stuttered during the championship, he needs to go and find his form, Mc Fadden if given the chance could be the long term option in midfield. He runs excellent lines is physical and offers a kicking option. Sexton needs to start on a regular basis, he is the future and should be invested in. ROG is more effective coming off the bench for impact. Reddan going off was a huge blow, Stringer's kicking, decision making and even passing were poor. Reddan is our first choice halfback he forms a potent and familiar partnership with Sexton. If you add Ferris, Flannery and Kearney back into the mix along with these proposed changes Ireland could be a real threat.
Regarding the Bench Kidney needs to start getting some of the young exciting players on it. This means P Wallace, Leamy and Court out and Omalley/Spence, Dom Ryan/Ruddock/McLaughlin and P McAllister in.
Posted 12:17 13th March 2011
munster1981 says...
crna_mike
if you can only win because of a bad call do you still deserve to win so?
that being said don't let this decision hide a truly awful performance by Declan Kidney. He useless. How much ball did ireland kick away? You can't score if you don't have the ball. Kidney needs to take a long hard look at himself and ask is he talking ireland forward. Despite winning a grand slam, (with Eddie O Sullivans team) what has he done for Irish rugby?
I can see another implosion at the world cup if he stays.
As irish tv pointed out yesterday, his win ratio is now worse than Eddie o Sullivan, who i feel was vilified by the press. He had to go at the time yes but people forget the success he brought.
Posted 12:16 13th March 2011
sirjona says...
One word Ireland DISCIPLINE you are not playing football and it should be left to the captain to speak to the ref, I hope Kidney gives them the bollocking of their life for surrounding the ref like a bunch of under 13`s on the local pitch.For the record the amount of games Kaplan has reffed for Ireland is 10 and they have won 7.
Posted 11:13 13th March 2011