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Muir laments Bok scrum collapse

07th November 2009 05:57

Leicester v South Africa Lucas Amorosino engulfed

Leicester celebrate their win

South Africa assistant coach Dick Muir admitted he had never seen a Bok front five so comprehensively outmuscled as they were in the shock 22-17 defeat to Leicester on Friday.

The Tigers marked the return of midweek warm-up matches to the autumn international calendar by exposing glaring weaknesses in the world champions' pack ahead of their Tests against France, Italy and Ireland.

In temporary charge before the arrival of Peter de Villiers, Muir named nine uncapped players in his matchday squad, but the presence of Jannie du Plessis and Danie Rossouw ensured they were no pushover for the Guinness Premiership champions.

"You can't play this game without any possession," said Muir.

"We were poor at the breakdown and poor at set pieces so we couldn't get the game going.

"We just move on. We came over here with an experiment and perhaps it didn't come off as planned.

"I don't think I've ever seen (a South Africa pack) as bad as that, especially from a coaching perspective. We were given a bit of a lesson at the scrums.

"Hats off to the Tigers. They were incredibly strong in that department so we've got to go back to the drawing board."

Muir, the former Springboks centre, believes this defeat should spur the Tri-Nations winners on to improved showings in the potentially imposing arenas of Toulouse, Udine and Croke Park.

The tourists should also be bolstered by the return of their inspirational locks Victor Matfield and Bakkies Botha for next Friday's clash with France, who may now scent another upset.

Muir added: "Nobody likes losing. When you take a squad like this and have a short turnaround maybe you're not as well prepared as you might be.

"It will probably cause the guys to be a little bit more determined. When you're on the top of the pile there's a lot of sides who want to knock you off, so that's the territory we've created for ourselves."

Leicester were expecting to exploit the gala occasion to mark the opening of their new £14million, 10,000-seater Caterpillar Stand, but the match soon took on greater significance when Lucas Amorosino's weaving try sent the Tigers into the lead, which they held to the end.

Richard Cockerill refused to speculate on the magnitude of the result, but the Tigers head coach was keen to prove wrong those who questioned the timing of the game, given Leicester's lengthy injury list and their upcoming LV= Cup clash at Leeds on Sunday.

Before this match, former England scrum-half Austin Healey predicted his old club would be "tonked" and only add to their injury list, because "that's what happens when you play South Africa."

Cockerill said: "I'd have to take my hat off to the players. I read some criticism this morning about the fixture and the two sides that were put out.

"It was all about us tonight and the facilities we're trying to provide. Maybe South Africa are a little shell-shocked that club rugby can be like that.

"The spirit here is second to none and I don't know where it comes from. Our scrum was immense and Geoff Parling was superb in the back row.

"Rugby can get quite scientific in its analysis these days. Sometimes you just need 15 blokes to come here and roll their sleeves up. The scientists can't quantify that. And that's what we did tonight."

Comments

irishzimbabwean says...

Cannot wait to see the Boks v Ireland and France on this tour. I can hear the excuses already since Boks have neither De Villiers or Steyn since they are playing in Ireland and France. It seems that the old quote is true of the Boks now - you don't beat them, just score more points than them! Is there any Bok suppotrer on this website who will give the Leicester 2nd team some credit for their great win?

Posted 08:10 09th November 2009

rugbyphile says...

great forward display by Leicester--against a 4th ranked quota SA side--the "world champions" -?-yeah great Planet R description - predictable journalism

Posted 02:03 09th November 2009

WayneRoberts says...

Oh give me a break Abenzed. South African rugby has no depth? How many quality players are in Europe alone? If we were prepared to select players who played overseas our player pool would be a lot greater. Just in the UK we have BJ Botha and CJ van der Linde who would walk into any European side.

The biggest issue though are the quota systems. Chilli, Guthro, Maku, Rose, Nokwe, Rauebenheimer, Ndungane...these guys would not even be 3rd or 4th stringers if we did not have to select sides based on quotas. You guys get to pick the best players based on merit alone. We dont have the luxury, yet we still have two world cup wins and record that is the best in the history of the game after the all blacks.

Before readmission, we had the best record and would probably still have it if not for politics.

This was a crap South African side that got beaten by a second rate club side. Some of those "Boks" cant even make their provincial sides. Seriously. Put this nonsense into perspective.

Posted 06:11 08th November 2009

jmanngod says...

who is in shock? I predicted this would happen...

Posted 19:23 07th November 2009

Seabass says...

I don't know why Strauss (#2) (Cheetah's Captain for the Currie Cup Final against the Bulls) and his teamate WP Nell?, the number 3, very good tighhead aren;t in the Bok squad, they are plain hard.

Posted 13:59 07th November 2009

Greencor says...

What did you expect Mr.Muir. Your second best fronrow was watching TV on Saturday. Why still bother with Steenkamp? Why Van Der Merwe as reserve Prop. Did you not see the match between the Sharks and the Cheetahs? What happened to your number one frontrow, and where is the blokes that beat them on that day? So what is your problem. What did Raubenheimer do on the pitch on Friday, because he did not know.

Posted 08:07 07th November 2009

ABenzed says...

Shows the Boks have no depth past their No 1 team... as many "experts" have been saying for some time. Outside of the Bulls, Sharks in S14 rugby their teams are weak so looks like they have 15-20 true international players then are very exposed after that.???

Posted 06:28 07th November 2009

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