pierredelot1 says...

Well justice for all, you didn't have me fooled although I was curious as to what kind of educated soul would use erudite and fat arse on the same sheet. As for Kaplan it's all water under the bridge, he's getting on and gone to pastures new. As for my complaints about French refereeing, they will continue. That gentle little man Mr Cudmore was up to his old tricks again last weekend, result nothing. I fear in any other rugby nation he would be on the permanently banned list by now but not in France, I've seen punches, shoulder charges, brawls, kicks to the head, yet there he is still sucking a lolly enjoying himself. Just study the appointments one day, they have guys refereeing top 14 you wouldn't let near the average county colts game. Have fun

Posted 15:53 28th March 2012

pierredelot1 says...

Tee hee justice4all, didn't know you were racist as well. What only 59, so I can give you five years at least. Sad to say i only played for 50 yearsand refereed for 15 as the old body started falling apart, broken neck, broken arms snapped achiles you know what I mean, there comes a point when you just have to pack it in. Oh I did coach as well. But frankly my arse is quite slim, I prefer to watch a game live than sit on a chair watching in the warmth of my luxury abode. So this Saturday I expect to be standing on the touch line watching my son play. He's getting on a bit too, but I did have the pleasure of playing with him. Sorry mate I don't like Kaplan, like Joubert, don't like Rolland or Clancy for that matter, but I see no reason not to air my opinions. I think I've earned it. Now take one of those blood pressure pills and calm down old son, its only a game. Anyway who the hell said I was French !!!!!

Posted 11:19 28th March 2012

APV1 says...

@ maria14 - "tipical male [sic]"; "poms", "pommys" - any other prejudices you'd like to share? You start using these terms and you're going to get people's heckles up and deserve people to react. I also didn't suggest that your "nonsense is out of line", I said it was ill-informed. I say that because anyone who thinks that CS's knock-on was worse than WF's is, in my opinion, wrong. Have a look at the footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_RsNHauXrM&feature=related

Fofana (see 47:37 on the match clock) leaps into the air and knocks on. He is penalised for a deliberate knock-on and we get a 3 pointer. Sharples (see 52:38 on the match clock) tries to scoop the ball and knocks on. He is penalised for a deliberate knock-on and given 10 minutes in the bin and the French kick into touch for the attacking lineout. I don't think either were deliberate, but that's not my issue. My issue is the inconsistency. Sharples wasn't even in our half (or only just, as it was around the 1/2 way line), so why the yellow card for the same offense as WF?

Clearly, maria14, you don't know the Laws better than me. As well as? Perhaps. Better? Not a chance.

At least you concur that your post was nonsense - that we can agree about.

@ Carpelone - when people come on here, male or female, spouting nonsense, I react. You know that by now. When they add "poms" and "pommys" and follow that up with "tipical male [sic]", It annoys me. The fact that she's a 14 year old girl (I'm not convinced she's a lady in any sense, my friend!) is beside the point. She's rude and deserves everything she gets.

Just as I do when I'm out of line. Which is rare. ;-)

With regards to the refs - how about Chabal? He's just got his qualification, so should be abng up-to-date. And he's played at the very highest level recently.

Longue vie ŕ l'homme des cavernes!

Posted 18:00 27th March 2012

Carpelone says...

@ APV1

Dont get nasty with Maria, mate. She is a lady and we should welcome more of them in this forum. I suspect that she is only a bit upset since her prediction about France being Grand Slam winners did not materialise.

I have always dreamt to meet women knowledgeable in rugby (instead I am always inevitably reprimanded for watching two rugby games in a row).

Keep it going, Maria.

Posted 15:33 27th March 2012

maria14 says...

@APV1.. please point out where my nonsense is out of line? dont be a tipical male and go on the attack when clearly i know the rules or LAWS better than you.

Posted 13:12 27th March 2012

APV1 says...

@ maria14 - I think you need to re-read your post and have a long hard think about the Sharples : Fofana comparison. It was the most daft decision I'd seen for some time.

I'm no great fan of Brian Moore and detest Stuart Barnes, but your ill-informed nonsense is almost as daft as theirs!

And before you start to dictate to us "poms" about the learning the "rules", you'd be better served calling them "Laws", as that's what they are. How are we meant to take you seriously when you're obviously not?

Posted 12:07 27th March 2012

JayStarr says...

@ rugga_mind: When you say Morné is the 10 with the most tries, the most points and the most accurate kicker at the World Cup... I assume you mean out of the South Africans? Otherwise Merthens, Larkham, etc. might have something to say about that wild statement...

In which case - DUH!

Posted 11:37 27th March 2012

maria14 says...

@lawynd

Fofana's attempted intercept was done so as to YES knock on the ball in the upward direction so that he can run on to it BEFORE the hits the ground and attempt to gain meters for his team. similar to Tommy Bowe for ireland in about the 30th minute of the first half. Sharples attempt to stop a pass was a clear slap the ball down and pervent France from gaining meters thus a clear 10 mins in the sin bin. there is no discession about this matter the rules state you can pass the ball forward to yourself, examples are Rubini CauCau for Agen v Leinster in the H Cup and Brian O'Driscoll for Leinster v Ulster in the old celtic League (where in fact he threw the ball forward over two players)

The reason i said the poms dont know the rules is that when a french played carried the ball into contact the tackling english player never released or in in most cases failed to roll away quickly, Rolland warned the poms to move and release the player when they failed to do so it resulted in a french penalty. it was fair the poms need to LEARN the RULES of world rugby not the rules from the AP.

The reason the Rolland was speaking longer to the french team was that Theiry was seeking advise and complaining about head to head at the scrum time. Chris Robshaw could have done that for the poms but he was listening. Most people knows Rolland is a communicator if you seek advise he will give it unlike Ownes, Parson, Patterson who get very "ratty" when a captain seeks advise from them.

Posted 10:16 27th March 2012

maria14 says...

I dont understand the complaints against Alain Roland, from watching his games with no vested interest in the teams playing, he calls it 50/50. Any rugby fan that does not agree with the red card he produced to Sam in the WC should take a long look at themselves in the mirror. He turned Vincent Clerc threw 90 degrees therefore RED CARD, The same happened to Frans Houggard a few weeks ago in Super Rugby and his tackle was not even through 90 degrees!!!

The fact that poms are having a go at Alain Roland is due to them not understanding the rules fully and just listening to brain moore on the BBC waffling about scrums and other english nonsense. In the 6N France v England Alain Roland called the game fair, the sin binning of sharples was justified by the fact he made no attempt to catch the ball only to bat it down, this cant be compared to the fofana knock on where he was attempting to intercept the pass and score a try, sharples only seeked to stop the play.

The fact that brian moore and other pommy journlists were having a go at Alain Roland for communicating with the french through french does not mean he is helping them!!

Posted 08:37 27th March 2012

melkdave says...

Got to agree that Goosen has talant we will see if the boks use him if not ill br disappointed.Also very good to see referees being held responsible 1 or 2 iffy games in a year is understandable in some ways .After all they arnt gods and will have bad days like everyone else.But constantly having bad games and being off the pace of things deserves relegation imo.Alain Roland take note please .As to stats as the saying goes you can make them say black is white given the right lever.In rugby terms it just goes to show its what you do with the ball that counts in wining games.I also hope that the jobs market shows the game is growing worldwide

Posted 00:19 27th March 2012