RugbyNut says...

No, O'Shea still has work to do at Quins, leave him there!

Posted 13:51 26th February 2013

Kid_Diablo says...

To avoid provincial bias and have someone who can bring consistency what would everybody think about maybe bringing in vern cotter ?

Unfortunately the irfu have made it very difficult for themselves to convince a new coach to come in because anyone who takes this job only has 2 years to completely revamp an international team before the world cup. So what do you do ?

offer them 2 years ? no coach would put their reputation on the line like that.

offer them 4? then we're in the same situation as now in 4 years

offer them 6? that's far too long ( as we're seeing now ) and would be foolish for everyone involved ( i agree with ward that 4 years is the shelf life of a coach )

Posted 11:43 26th February 2013

ronanmeagher says...

@3in4 - don't forget Roly Meates

Posted 11:14 26th February 2013

melkdave says...

As far as i know C'O'Shea hasnt even expressed any interest in taking over from D.Kidney.Also lets remember Kidney did pick the correct team.The stats prove that.Its the players and only the players who must be held accountable for losing against Scotland ,no one else.The coaches cant make that final pass or tackle for them after all or make on field decisions ..Yes Kidneys made mistakes what coach hasnt in his time??,Also his been to slow in blooding young talant ,and holding onto the old guard for too long,ala England after 2003.Thats his major mistake imo,Having said all that though,i do feel that D.Kidney needs tio go,i just cant see how he can start blooding the youngsters in the numbers he has to now I dont think he could bring himself to do it honestly.

Posted 10:29 26th February 2013

3in4 says...

Get Joe Schmidt in there at the helm, with Jono Gibbes as forwards coach and Greg Feek to coach the scrum. Get Murray, O'Gara, O'Callaghan, O'Mahoney, Earls out, and get Reddan, Madigan, Toner, Dominic Ryan, Fitzgerald/McFadden in. Now that's a winning formula. Then we'll have a team worth talking about.

Posted 10:22 26th February 2013

rockman says...

@Gleek i think your idea is great but possible below O'Shea to take a development role. He has proved himself @Quinns

Posted 09:57 26th February 2013

Dub_Len_Irl says...

@gleek

I agree, my preferred option is to have Joe Schmidt move to the Ireland job and have Conor O'Shea take over at Leinster with a view to Conor moving onto the Ireland job when Joe moves on.

I'd be quite happy to have Joe stay at Leinster and Conor go straight to the nation team too, but I don't think Leinster will hold onto Joe, his 'stock' has moved too high.

So the first option seems to be the best for both Ireland & Leinster for the next few years

Posted 09:45 26th February 2013

99call says...

Sorry GLEEK but we dont need another provincially biased coach taking over in the top job, I think Schmidt is a top coach but we're going to be in the same situation in terms of the players he'll pick as you cant tell me he wont favour the Leinster players hes been working with for the past couple of years and you wouldnt blame him for that as any coach will opt for players he knows were he can.

You could say OShea could have bias because hes an irishman but at the end of the day hes a connacht man who played for Leinster but the main thing is he has never coached any of the current crop of players and potential young players and has had nothing to do with Irish rugby since his playing days so to me hes the perfect man for the job as hes irish, as to be honest we all still want a home coach, and he doesnt come with any provincial baggage and he was on record last year in saying that he would pick Tomy Bowe at 13 as the replacement for BOD when he retires so to me hes recognised that Tommy could be the answer at 13 rather than DKs failed attempts to make international centres out of the likes of Earls and McFadden.

So it has to be OShea or someone who has not had any link with the provinces before which for me rules out the likes of Schmidt and Anscombe

Posted 09:33 26th February 2013

leinster_goy says...

tony "worrying times, ryle" ward trying to get his RTE mate a job, by the sounds of it

Posted 08:40 26th February 2013