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rugby_rockstar says...

Saint-Andre coached sides are not reknown for they attacking flair, be it Gloucester, Sale or Toulon, they all lacked imagination. However, although I sense his opposition is coloured by his own coaching limitations, I do agree that the idea of a grand slam winning team missing out on the actual trophy would just turn the whole competition into a rediculous joke.

I remember 2002 when England lost to France in Paris and wilko got betsened. The next match we thrashed Wales 50 - 10 yet we are all walking about with faces resembling a bull dog chewing a wasp because the grand slam was gone. They are tough things to win because every country has a reason to up their game against everyone else. There's serious passion on the pitch and in the stands. There's nothing worse than losing a six nations match to any of the other five countries.

Posted 16:33 22nd January 2013

APV1 says...

@ OldAlex - I think I would advocate the The European Nations Cup to become an annual event first, but I like the concept. Winners of the The European Nations Cup play the losers of the 6N, eh? Food for thought...

Posted 16:17 22nd January 2013

Propmelsey says...

Not too sure about a relegation/promotion concept . I doubt that the Team getting promoted would be good enough to compete. I think purely from a rugby perspective we could cut the competition back to a 5 nation comp, with Scotland dropping out as they are clearly the weakest team in it and have been for some time. I doubt this is feasible though .. probably due to comercial commitments. .... But i think it would do the Scots a lot of good to play at a lower level for now.

Posted 16:02 22nd January 2013

OldAlex says...

"... seeing whether it can be improved (the introduction of France and Italy are good examples of this approach being successful),... "

So what about promotion every two years for the B winner and relegation for the sixth 6N team (on aggregate points over the two seasons)?

Or, if that's too radical, perhaps a play-off on neutral ground? (Georgia v Scotland at Twickenham for "death or glory"!!)

Posted 15:30 22nd January 2013

APV1 says...

I'm certainly not against development and review, but I'm against bonus points in the 6N. I'm all for looking at something and seeing whether it can be improved (the introduction of France and Italy are good examples of this approach being successful), but the competition works.

Posted 15:03 22nd January 2013

jamesliveinhope says...

something of Bonaparte about that image of PSA.

The BP thing has been discussed to death on other threads and this doesn't seem to bring anything different to the argument.

Posted 14:54 22nd January 2013

ArmchairGeneral says...

Totally agree. Every game is a final. A play off. It would be like having bonus points in the knock out rounds of WC or HC. Completely daft. I think supporters have not thought about it. Why mess with an absolutely fantastic tournament! And I am no conservative.

Posted 14:36 22nd January 2013

7redcards says...

I hate this idea of bonus points, its international rugby, you win or you lose, thats it.

Posted 14:30 22nd January 2013

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