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jappers1983 says...

Saw nothing wrong in taking the three points. The error was in not knocking on the re-start. South Africa also have a superb line-out so that option would always be incredibly high risk, plus the likelihood of actually scoring from that line-out were remote (the stats speak for themselves).

The best option of the three, considering the position on the pitch, would have been the scrum. England had an excellent platform from it throughout the game and also won penalties directly from South Africa's front row. Not sure why this option is always neglected.

My main bug with Lancaster though is his criminal underuse of Jonathan Joseph. He offers so much more than Barritt (although I do rate Barritt, Joseph is a better all round player), and offers something beyond "head down and take contact". We shall see what happens next week.

Posted 17:07 24th November 2012

joekridge says...

Great defence from the boks...ref Nigel Owens had a shocker. All 50/50 calls went against sa. you could see he only had one eye on the boks making mistakes. England were very unlucky however.

Posted 17:04 24th November 2012

LondonWasp says...

improvements were visible but again, like in the Australia game, England fumbled when they were in perfect try scoring oppotunities. very fustrating

Posted 16:56 24th November 2012

letsgoboks says...

bummer... And the AB's next...

It's not all despair for the England rugby team. I mean... they managed to beat the mighty Fijians on this tour. That was a 'ruthless', 'faultless' and 'intelligent' affair!

Now back to reality. The Boks were terrible. They need to raise their standards because this is just not good enough. I don't care what time of the season it is and where they are playing. JDV is not the answer for captain. Ruan must head back to the northern hemisphere and play his rugby there. Jannie is not test level any more.

Posted 16:54 24th November 2012

melkdave says...

Just how unlucky are England atm,should have won today by a clear margin,should have won last week ,but alas not tobe.But alot of improvement today from England dominated the SA forwards in the loose and scrum.I wonder have SA ever been afraid to scrum before in a match ??Again the exacution and precsion not quite there ,in bad conditions,but its comming SLOWLY but getting there .T.Flood didnt have his best game today ,if he had made those early pens then different game altogether.Overall England have shown they ae a top team ,now just have to put the points on the board .Still optomistic for the 6Ns and 2015 ,as they are very inexperianced and green atm ,.We have made alot of progress in less than a year ,and i feel it will continue .

Posted 16:50 24th November 2012

capebacon says...

So let the excuses begin, bizarre, ridiculous, lucky, ludicrous, fortunate try ... heard it all so far ! Fact is England when you choose to blindly kick the ball on your own try rather than pick it up and play the contact you will risk a try like that.

Just face it you blew a perfectly good opportunity to win that game , hihihihi !

Posted 16:48 24th November 2012

BokAvenger says...

Well done to the Boks for beating 16 men. Nigel Owens put on his best Bryce Lawrence impression, ignoring Corbisiero's inward scrummaging all day and England players with their hands all over the ball at ruck time. And I knew England had a lot of Saffas playing for them but I didn't realise Robshaw was one of them - thanks for that last minute penalty call boet. The biltong is in the post. Ha, ha, ha, ha ha!

Posted 16:47 24th November 2012

martinmarais78 says...

Daaikak (Daibok), did you enjoy that in your England shirt with our England buddies?

Boks, were lucky...

Posted 16:47 24th November 2012

rugby_lord says...

Did the paint dry already???

Posted 16:46 24th November 2012

carpelone says...

England was never going to win it.

Gutted with the Boks' attitude to try to control instead of finishing games off.

Centres do not see much ball as usual, would like to see JP at 13, to open that outside gap.

Posted 16:42 24th November 2012

FISH says...

a win is a win.......poor discipline from the boks almost cost the game......we didnt adapt to walsh's interpretation well enough, and what the hell was robshaw thinking???? no guts no glory, he who dares wins......... he learned that the hard way today

Posted 16:41 24th November 2012

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