Voice says...

Glad we came away with a win albeit quite a fortunate one. I believe that HM is a 1 trick pony! Glad to see that our loose forwards are coming into their own and starting to compliment one another - happy for Duane (Captain) Vermeulen! Lambie at 10??? still don`t know but this bok side does not get me too excited. Depth is almost non-existent, back-up to Alberts questionable, Pienaar I am unsure about.

Big up to the english pack today especially their 8th man, thought he was very good they were very unlucky. Watched the AB game afterwards, they are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest.

Posted 20:27 24th November 2012

malaprade says...

TVboy. Touchy as well. I suppose I made an impact. Think of it this way my friend. I have an MSc from UCL which is one of the top uni's in the world, and I was the top student in my class. I am a South African of Dutch, French dissent who probably has Neanderthal genes, as you should know if you read scientific journals. I do think having Neanderthal genes gives me the edge though. A tougher structure to my body and at the same time a bigger brain. I may not run as fast but I can take those big hits without breaking bones too often. I would take that pedigree any day above being an inbred.

Posted 20:25 24th November 2012

malaprade says...

The way you are addressing jaystar you must be presuming you have a higher IQ than him. I love it when you brits do that. It makes the victories even sweeter. You always think it is pure brawn that gives the boks the edge, but fail to see it was the cleverer side who won today. There is nothing as pathetic as a red faced brit who has been caught out. Getting back to jaystars comment. If you take a carefull look at the game AGAIN, you will come to realise that he is correct. The first grab to the face was by the english player. I suppose the FINAL POINT is YOUR TEAM LOST AGAIN, so GET OVER IT, and SMARTEN UP before you take on a smarter team.

Posted 20:17 24th November 2012

melkdave says...

WOW al the bokke fans moaning about the ref.YOUR SCRUM WAS BEATEN OFF THE FIELD DEAL WITH IT .

Posted 19:33 24th November 2012

malaprade says...

TV--dic- :)

The way you are addressing jaystar you must be presuming you have a higher IQ than him. I love it when you brits do that. It makes the victories even sweeter. You always think it is pure brawn that gives the boks the edge, but fail to see it was the cleverer side who won today. There is nothing as pathetic as a red faced brit who has been caught out.

Getting back to jaystars comment. If you take a carefull look at the game AGAIN, you will come to realise that he is correct. The first grab to the face was by the english player.

I suppose the FINAL POINT is YOUR TEAM LOST AGAIN, so GET OVER IT, and SMARTEN UP before you take on a smarter team.

Posted 19:16 24th November 2012

ADShark says...

Well done Boks! Once again the green wall stands firm. Time to spread our wings next year though. Unlucky England, missed too many chances. Looking forward to a better 2013.

Posted 18:45 24th November 2012

philipjfry says...

Kak game. Enough said.

Posted 18:31 24th November 2012

BillyMutt2 says...

Oh dear, here go the Saffas again - even when their team manage to scrape out a win they have to whine about the ref. Just grow a pair already.

Posted 18:09 24th November 2012

TVaddict says...

I find it hilarious there are SA fans even thinking that the refereeing decisions went predominantly against SA. Did you watch the game? Yes there were a lot of bad decisions but they were pretty evenly distributed between the two teams. Lots of casual punches from the South Africa forwards conveniently not seen, lots of springboks rolling on the ball like it was a bloody scratching post, and were they ever on their feet? But, that said England got some lucky decisions, especially in the scrum as once we got the momentum with it the ref seemed to just side with us whatever happened. So please don't live up to the SA stereotype of bleating conspiracy theorists, your better than that. You won, fair and square.

Posted 17:38 24th November 2012

TVaddict says...

How many f-ing terrible decisions can one team make? How many try scoring opportunities can one team mess up like a bunch of amateurs? Do these players know how to pass, or draw a defender or run a line?

I'm not just talking about Robshaw's decision at the end, I'm talking about Flood kicking the ball away when we're in a good position, Youngs constant woeful kicking to their back three, and Ashton choosing to throw a terrible pass far too early. What happens to these players to turn them from young attacking stars to slow bad kicking idiots? I don't think I've ever got so angry at watching someone kicking a ball.

That all said, there are so many positives to take from this game. We matched the Springboks in the forwards and bested them in the scrum to such an extent they became afraid of it. That is one of the impressive feats a set of forwards can achieve. We competed immeasurably better at the breakdown, and when players like Tuilagi and Brown attacked they were able to find holes. Launchbury, Wood, Corbisiero, Tom Youngs, Haskell, Tuilagi were all fantastic.

Things that need to change. Ashton has to go, he's looking slow, drops the ball more times than the rest of the team combined, and seems to offer nothing in attack. Flood needs to go, he's had so many opportunities and he never gets any better. He's meant to be there for his creative influence but England have never looked so poor in attack, his tactical kicking has been continually poor, and he can't even kick goals reliably. Youngs is still looking off the pace so I'd have Care starting but to be honest neither is playing well.

Things that need to be sharpened up. The restart, no longer can we score and then immediately give away a penalty because of a poor restart. The lineout needs to become more consistent. OUR KICKING MUST IMPROVE. Our attacking lines and decision making must get better.

Posted 17:16 24th November 2012