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Comments
Tamjon says...
I don't think there is anything wrong with what has been written. For starters he does not actually acuse anyone of match fixing, just entertained the thought before dismissing it. I'd rather know what goes through the mind of one of the greatest rugby coaches, than having his real thoughts and feelings covered over so as to not upset the few that cannot read the words in their correct context
Posted 06:53 30th July 2012
tweedledee49 says...
Not cool...lets move on shall we?
Posted 06:53 30th July 2012
Philly says...
GH is talking from a 2007 perspective. I am glad to see him make his thoughts known. I felt the same way after the 2007 QF. I thought I had seen the most blatant display of refereeing incompetence of a pay off somewhere behind closed doors. I am glad I wasn't the only only one.
Posted 06:37 30th July 2012
new_j4a says...
I'd like to see GH's remarks in context (without paying for the book). I also intend going back to watch the match from 2007 in the light of whatever he says, in context....so I can make up my own mind I can see Barnes bottling it on the big stage after being fast tracked past his level of competence, but I just can't see him taking a backhander and blatantly cheating.....one look at the man ought to tell you that he doesn't have the balls to cheat..
And, with respect to RWC2011, it was fairly reffed....one mistake at minute 4....Craig Joubert rewarded by his bosses...6N appointment...blah, blah....sigh...is there any point in continuing to discuss this with people who couldn't define a forward pass if their life depended on it....or recognize one. If all of the conspiracy theorists out there want to create and sustain the great myth that rugby is bent, then go for it....but why do you participate? You may as well go follow WWF wrestling? Or you could just learn enough to know yourself whether it's bent and then march en masse on the IRB and get it unbent? But I am fairly sure that there is MUCH, MUCH more ignorance than cheating
Posted 05:10 30th July 2012
Cats_Meow says...
@every absolute imbecile who is pointing towards the apparent one-sided nature of the 2011 World Cup Final as their only form of rebuttal to Henry's allegations - are you effing kidding me?? all this says to me is that you indirectly agree there was something amiss in 2007, unbelievable... you're probably the same bunch of morons whose only rebuttal to the allegation of Richie McCaw being eye-gouged in the final was that he "got away" with concussing Morgan Parra
Posted 04:56 30th July 2012
Bafana says...
Funny. the SA Oz game fits the same description.
I see no one is complaining about Stephane Donal'd "missed" kick which won the match.
No, sport is full of bad refeering.
Corruption? I don't know. Let's ask the FIFA and the cricket world.
Posted 04:55 30th July 2012
Rosco1971 says...
Wow, fancy GH having an opinion and being passionate about his job!!? Anyone impartial who watched that 2007 game could see the ref had an absolute shocker similar to BL in the Wallabies v SA in 2011. In the 2007 game there was a game changing blatant forward pass right in front of the very experienced touch judge. That would be picked up 99/100 in a club game. GH states he reviewed the video of the game and he struggled to understand why the decisions where made, considering the officials are supposed to be rugby's elite. Most of us watching the game did the same thing. By him throwing out the possibly of match fixing rather than incompetence he has stirred he hornets nest but I recall the shock and denial when Hanse Cronje got done. Is he that wrong to ask that question? I bet many coaches have thought the same but won't say anything while they are still active in the game.
The beauty of this game is that we are passionate about it but let's lose the nationalistic diatribe and see this what it is.
By the way, Stephen Jones is a ****:)
Posted 04:17 30th July 2012
james_lunn says...
I suppose we better investigate the refs that handled the Lions 2nd and 3rd test in 2001.........They must of had a hand in the match then. Pathetic!!!! He should never of lost with that squad, and he had the players in 2011 to win the WC, 0 to do with his coaching abiliy. One of the most overated coaches in the world!
Posted 02:34 30th July 2012
theGadflY says...
if there were any match fixing it probably happned in 1995 & 2011 RWCs.NZ are no saints themselves.every1 saw how the refreeing was,includin the final.
Posted 02:30 30th July 2012
cantyboy says...
Its history now and like history should be,it should be in the past.
Posted 02:27 30th July 2012
Trader2 says...
Don't quite agree with the sentiment but the stats, if correct, are interesting, France were great on defence that night, but were they that good?? To all those clowns comparing 2007 to 2011 well I suggest you do a similar analysis of the stats for 2011 - chalk and cheese. Will be interesting to see the book (which is obviously why this story is out now) and see exactly what GH has said. But the best thing about it is to give all the AB haters out there, who never get satisfaction on the field against the AB's, the chance to cheer up their pathetic miserable little lives. Gotta love that!
Posted 00:51 30th July 2012
porridge_time says...
NHsaints... are you sure that PVD never said anything, because I can recall him being very very vocal at the time. He has also gone public with his views about Bryce Lawrence in his book, published within a year after the last world cup.
Yet Graham Henry kept his personal views out of the public domain for over eight years.
Posted 00:36 30th July 2012
kiwilad says...
As a rugby fan from NZ I am embarrased that GH has decided to dive into this.
Abs lost the game because they had no plan B, and did not have the nous to attemp a drop goal.
The rest is a referees interpretation, and often wrong.
Sometimes its in your favour, other times its not.
Posted 00:28 30th July 2012
porridge_time says...
100% in agreement with you there Terry_English.
Posted 00:26 30th July 2012
schalkthehulk says...
Oh and noone suspected match fixing in the world cup just gone??!?!?! Bryce Lawrence, anyone? Craig Joubert in the final?!?!?
Posted 00:21 30th July 2012
pierredelot1 says...
Oh dear. The team that won a number of matches with forward passes lost one, because of a forward pass. It was more like an evening out process and to the neutral observer quite amusing. But in addition NZ lost their focus and game plan. End of. Can you make good New Zealand wine with sour grapes, I don't think so. Barnes has had the odd dodgy game, but bent give me a break. Too little, too late too boring.
Posted 23:46 29th July 2012
2EyedKiwi says...
Please note, Graham Henry speaks for Graham Henry, not all NZ.
Posted 23:37 29th July 2012
lawynd says...
@conradmurray - the difference between other match-fixing scandals and these slanderous comments is that little thing called evidence. Barnes had a shocker but he's not the first referee to do so, and he won't be the last. Those AB fans feeling sore about 2007 (build a bridge and get over it chaps!) might do well to recall that pretty much the rest of the rugby world felt that France received a raw deal from Craig Joubert in the 2011 edition; none of us, including the French, have accused him of match-fixing, however.
Posted 23:15 29th July 2012
jamesliveinhope says...
This is absolutely disgraceful, has the man never watched a rugby match - 40 penalty infringements??????? of course there are its a complex sport, the referee is trained not only to judge whether an infringement has occurred but also to judge whether it has a material impact on the play otherwise the match would never get going. Also, having considered the fact that New Zealanders pride themselves in a captain who seems able to get away with murder on the pitch, is it not unreasonable to imagine that having the benefit of hi-motion action replays and a team of video analysts (lets not forget that he was trying to save his job at the time) you might spot more than the ref.
I think that this outburst of sour grapes does Henry no credit at all and, if I was going to defame a referee, I would probably not pick on a qualified barrister.
Posted 22:52 29th July 2012
powerplay says...
Now lets see how we can sell some books??? What can we say that will be controversial???
Posted 21:56 29th July 2012