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new_j4a says...

@jon the wannabe ref (nothing Oz, refers just to your Walter Mitty like belief that you are a ref....which given your lack of knowledge of the Laws and inability to communicate can not possibly be true....even in darkest most ignorant valley in Wales) Now, I am not an Oz supporter. I support good rugby everywhere and abhor whinging supporters of any team who come on here with vague claims that the ref was biased or incompetent when you know nothing of the Laws. I particularly dislike people who pretend to be qualified to comment, as you do with your choice of name. You are clearly not a ref...or at least I shall assume that you are not as long as you refuse to explain those of your statements that can be deciphered by English speakers. So, exactly what was wrong with the decisions in minute 74 of the first Oz vs Wales test? I don't expect you to be able to explain even what you meant to say with this jumble of words: ""Knock off halfpenny's head, when he though it was a Aus knock on, then Wales, the guy is obviously too caught up in himself to do it. " For this you need professional help.

My credentials are not the issue here. I am confident in my knowledge of the Laws and my ability to seek guidance from more qualified refs when an issue is ambiguous. The kind of issues that get raised here are not deep Law testing issues, but simple everyday issues that refs make decisions on in their sleep and that you clearly don't understand.....

Posted 20:20 16th June 2012

ShamanSheep says...

@eccles

hahaha - once we get to the third page of a message board it's usually all nasty nonsense, so give the dog a biscuit for providing some humour

Posted 19:45 16th June 2012

Sssnake says...

I reckon FISH is a right Pollock. Oh wasn't he Australia's ref today?

Posted 19:06 16th June 2012

new_j4a says...

@hayj05, Steady on there. FISH is not a Saffa. We have our own idiots (in abundance) and don't need to take the blame for Oz trolls

Posted 18:46 16th June 2012

eccles says...

I apologise for the "a". The dog did it, and although border collies are very smart, they know bugger all about rugby.

Posted 18:31 16th June 2012

jontheref says...

@new_j4A

Is that a new log in?

justice 4 all or something?

The ed has told you to stop being a naughty boy, so go off and take your meds!

As I don't support the Aus team, like you obviously do, stop answering my posts with Aussie nicknames.

So you are qualified, pray tell us what grade you ref, advise refs on, or act as a citing officer, or even coach, as coaches have some knowledge of the laws, so we can see how you are qualified.

You started this, so put up or shut up!

Posted 18:26 16th June 2012

Rodgerthedog says...

Wales lost composure when it mattered, its the stuff the players do week in week out in the Rabo. It's great experience and loosing tight games hurts. Showed that they could take the Aussies on and make space. Bring it on next week. Ps FISH is a bell.

Posted 17:56 16th June 2012

rico says...

Lydiate red card jokers - get real it's a contact sport, numpties.

Posted 16:20 16th June 2012

TVaddict says...

@FISH

Your an idiot. You've never said anything of any interest, so my guess is that you only comment on here to try and annoy people. So pathetic.

@At everyone who isn't FISH

He's just trying to get you all irritated. If you look at recent articles you'll see on pretty much every one he just says some ridiculous and ignorant comment to try and get your attention. Don't give him the satisfaction of replying to him. It we ignore him long enough maybe he'll actually develop into a real person.

Posted 16:02 16th June 2012

eccles says...

Well played Wales. It was a game that could and should have been won, given that nearly half of the Wallabies run-on squad were Waratahs "players". If Mr. Barnes was the man-of-the-match then every other player must have been bloody awful. He kicked goals - big deal. With no wind to contend with, so could any other average club kicker. He set up a try; he also set up Wales' first try with his patented move, missing the marked bit of the paddock altogether. Palu was ineffective, and the only difference between a front row of Robertson, Palota-Nau and Kepu, and the Brumbies Alexander,Moore and Palmer is that the Brumbies trio are used to winning. Bring on an independent Australian Rugby Commission, get rid of the NSW dominance at management level, and Australian rugby might finally move forward instead of marking time.

Posted 15:38 16th June 2012

zambokke says...

Wales are great at marginally losing yet talking of how they should have won or how great they are. How many games have you lost during and since the RWC? There is no denying that they are a good side - their IRB ranking of 5th is proof to this. They really need to learn how to win close games if they are to give spiel like the ABs, Aust. and SA. I feel though that they will wine the final game, now that the pressure is off.

Posted 15:32 16th June 2012

draig says...

hehe - So what your saying is that the Aussies sruggled to beat a average team.. Speaks volumes. FISHing for responses obviously or you wouldn't back your self into those sorts of corners ;-)

Otherwise - it would seem, despite our optomism, we're still a shade off closing the big 3 out - but lets face it, there were alot of nervious kiwis and aussies out there today in those last few minutes!! Although why the brain farts keep happening is a mystery to me - I mean who does big aimless midfield kicks with a minute to go with only a point in it - we don't do that against england, france or ireland in the six nations - what possessed priestland to think that these guys were the ones to try it with!!. I know its unsporting but just hold the ball and play slow for the last min and kick it out!!!!

Posted 15:32 16th June 2012

eccles says...

a

Posted 15:15 16th June 2012

Dafydd29 says...

Can't help but feel that with a NH ref the result would have been quite different.

Posted 15:05 16th June 2012

celticspirit says...

@appropriately-named FISH: Just stop going on about the AllBlacks cheating, will you? The amount of times that Pocock doesnt release when he is a tackler (ok, that law has only been there for just over a year...) or when he is off his feet is just plain nauseating. Never mind the fact that the Australian scrum can't stay straight for their lives and were only saved by the timid ref who didnt want to award too many penalties against them.

So, Australia were gritty, as were New Zealand. But if anyone today should be accused of cheating it would have to be the men wearing gold... (Not saying they should, by the way, because everyone tried to get away with stuff, some just more so than others...)

Posted 15:04 16th June 2012

hellovanite says...

My heart goes out to the welsh. Like the Irish they had the winning of the game within their grasp! At the very least this shows that the gap can be breached when you up the tempo and stay committed. Take heart Wales you have the ability to crack this one. Ireland likewise will feel a lot more confident going into game 3. Now for England to step up and deliver where the others couldn't. Competitive close fought internationals are much more stirring than runaway victories. I'm a New Zealander and I always want the ABs to win, but this weeks games were far better. I almost had a heart attack haven't felt so anxious since RWC 2012, thanks Ireland. Last week I was putting out the rubbish and talking on the mob with 15 minutes to go this week I was glued to the screen, much better. It's nice to know you have a rugby team that have great skill but it's even better when you know there is someone up to the challenge!

Posted 15:00 16th June 2012

Dangerous says...

Vuna very lucky not to be red card. Thought welsh played wrong tactics when he was off the field. Kicked it away or down middle or kept it tight. Should've been trying to exploit the man down in the line. Also with 2 minutes to go why did they kick it away again. They had it won. Very disappointed for them and I'm a kiwi.

Posted 15:00 16th June 2012

celticspirit says...

Thanks, new_j4a, cold not have said it any better. Hope that ignorant fool never returns here and watches football instead. It is an easier game to comprehend...

Posted 14:58 16th June 2012

Mayhem says...

FISH, did you really just say you were being objective!? The man who hurls racist abuse at the welsh and legislates it all by saying go Aussie? You are a cretin of the highest order! congrats to real Aussie fans, displayed once again that their team have the most important top 2 inches in the locker when it matters. The welsh? Naive unfortunately. Maybe next time I hope. @FISH... Grow up you sad little troll.

Posted 14:55 16th June 2012

startledwombat says...

Well, that was my prediction of a comfortable win shot down in flames!

A good atmosphere at the ground, a Welsh couple in front of us, an Irish couple beside us, and Australians who had played the game behind us. All good fun. One thing I like about rugby is the game is bigger than the teams or tribes.

As the last five minutes of the match unfolded my wife and I were baffled. The Welsh chose to take a scrum from a short-arm penalty even though when they did the same thing earlier in the match it had backfired on them. The Welsh also kicked possession away, and when they got the ball back they sent it out into the backs.

"Why aren't they holding onto it?" my wife kept asking.

We had just come from watching on TV the All Blacks close out the final five minutes of a test, grinding it out.

In short, Wales threw away the game in the last five minutes. Keep the ball in hand, go from ruck to ruck, keep it tight with your pick-and-drive runners, slow the game down. They did nothing of this and paid the price.

Their lack of composure was brutally exposed and I think they are very fortunate to be ranked #4 in the world. They don't deserve to be higher. There's a difference between being very good and excellent. This Welsh team are merely very good.

Posted 14:52 16th June 2012

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