Ramage says...

As the editor has pointed out we all need to suck in a bit of air and learn how to respond. Admittedly there are times we are upset with a certain post. I along with others have decided to ignore a number of the more outrageous ones.Now have added Fish to that list.

However one area that gets my goat is the reference that referees are cheats. Yes we can all disagree with certain decisions but in the end I believe the referee makes the ruling in good faith and sometimes is wrong. However there are a number of people on here who have the word ref in their title which can or can not make them out to be referees. First I would suggest if they are still refereeing they or they are former referees then they should remember the minute they take up the keyboard to post their opinions they are not doing so as a referee but as a supporter of the country they come from or an interested party from another. They are not writing as a referee. I had over 25 yrs of refereeing experience and whilst I have some knowledge of the Laws I never rose to be an International referee and would bow to any referee, including some I do not like, as far as experience is concerned. when I write posts on here I do not write as a former referee but as a supporter and whilst I may have some understanding of what should or should not have happened My view from the TV is somewhat limited and in some cases distorted. It is somewhat galling for either the posts from some fans who have the word ref written in their name to attack a referee as being a cheat or favouring a certain team. Favouring? What does that really mean? It is hardly objective. Likewise the condescending statements that are aimed at experienced International referees by much less experienced referees who really are not referees on this forum but supporters of one of the teams and should remember this.

Posted 07:55 17th June 2012

jonesy2 says...

brilliant game of rugby of the highest standard, i thought it was all over with a couple of minutes to go but the wallaby scrum was just awesome i thought sekope played a monster of a game, barnes, what a man, literally came in at the last minute after being at hospital all week and puts in that performance, legendary. and pocock is just ridiculous there are no words for his ability lydiate should have been at least yellowed if not redded for that act of disgrace (after the whistle had gone aswell) not even bakkies would do that the only thing worse than that is the write ups from PR and not putting lydiate as villian of the match.

Posted 07:07 17th June 2012

jonesy2 says...

new_j4a --- excuse me? what words to eat? the wallabies won the game or are you a complete moron you dont know how to read numbers? i dont even know why i am replying to a lump of turd like you to be honest.

Posted 06:58 17th June 2012

Waz4before says...

Amazing stats when the yellow card was given (60 m) with Oz having 75% territory and 66% possession yet the scoreboard had nothing in it. Great game to watch though, I just hope Wales carry their new-found charitable play in to the 6Ns next year -kicking possession away with a minute to go was just criminal.

And for those posting "it was the Refs fault ... Again!" please get a life and try and get out more!!!!!!

Posted 01:55 17th June 2012

84GS says...

A few Stats on the Aus / Wales Game, Penalty's Aus 12 Wales 7, Line outs Lost Aus 0 Wales 3 & one not straight, Rucks & Mauls Aus 114 Wales 52, Missed Tackles, Aus 12 Wales 26, Run Metres Aus 670, Wales 262, Scrums Aus 4 Wales 1, turn overs Aus 11, Wales 10, Possession Aus 57% Wales 43%. Have a look at them!!! the only ones Wales won were the ones you don't want to win, Missed Tackles, lost lineouts, Throw Not straight ( the roof was closed so no wind). The Welsh were not unucky they were lucky to be that close ! Why did they kick the ball away in the last few minutes.... because thats what they do. When Cooper Vuna was off the field they did not even try to use that advantage and spread it wide!!

As for Cooper Vuna how dumb was that, I don't think it will matter if he is suspended or not because I don't think he will be there anyway.

As for the NH comments on the scrums it is like a broken record blah blah blah, 5 scrums in the total game, the name of the game is Rugby not Scrum.

Anyway looking forward to another good game next week

Posted 01:31 17th June 2012

Trader2 says...

@startledwombat yes I see where you are coming from the kicker, could have gone to ground and the support would most probably have got to him. I guess it just highlights that collectively the Welsh were just not thinking, for mine with 90 secs left you must always take the advantage play. II suppose you have to question Warburton's leadership, a bit like Ritchie in the 2007 WC quarter, hopefully Warburton will learn like McCaw did. A great night of Rugby all round really but the Wannabies will be better for Beale and O'Connor's return (Beale of course subject to any punishments that may be coming his way) and I see the Argies beat France again, this Rugby Championship is going to be a cracker.

Posted 00:58 17th June 2012

curlymac says...

Wales deserved to lose this game. To kick away the ball and control of the game in the final 2 mins was a brain explosion and shows they lack class and any mental understanding of how to win. all they needed to do was hold on to the ball and they choose to do the opposite, they are complete dunderheads!!!!

Posted 23:52 16th June 2012

pierredelot1 says...

How is it that New Zealand produce great players and ordinary referees. In the second half the welsh set was shunting back the Aussie scrum who then tried to wheel it or one or more broke off. The law is quite simple all eight must be bound in until the ball exits the scrum. Mr Pocock obviously doesn't know that one and more importantly the referee didn't either. What is particularly annoying about the binding on is that it was introduced by the Southern Hemisphere to prevent the likes of players such as Dean Richards, from leaning on the back with their heads in the air to see what was going on. Seems now that Deano doesn't play at this level any more it's all OK. Failing to keep eight bound in, releases players to defend illegally and cuts down the available space to play in. It's about time referees began to bang it a bit more often.

Posted 22:52 16th June 2012

ArmchairGeneral says...

I don't think Fish was that out of line. Actually I think he's the Cods Pollocks.

Posted 21:48 16th June 2012

Rodgerthedog says...

@new_j4a ps there are no Dark Ignorant Valleys in Wales, just Valleys...,

Posted 21:05 16th June 2012