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fiwiboy says...

to those who asked, Sky NZ runs a dedicated (24 hour??) rugby channel which shows current AND classic games (like the '73 ABs-BaaBaas). They also show schoolboy rugby as well as non-NZ games like Heineken Cup, Magner¿s League, Top 14, Guinness Cup, Anglo-Welsh Cup, European Cup and Japan League. Not sure what else they show

Posted 06:53 13th June 2012

TheRugbyPost says...

This game is going to be a joke as England are playing against an unknown group of Currie Cup players who have never played together. How is it that Wales end up playing the Brumbies in their midweek game and England play the blind school?

Posted 17:12 12th June 2012

pierredelot1 says...

Allen still vin ordinaire, if Leicester could actually string together a great set of backs they'd be back to their old ways. It just hasn't happened because they are so forwards orientated and so proud of their ability to man up, that they train out all the flair and imagination. Why do you think they lost to Harlequins? Failure to match the wit and speed of thought. Twelvetrees will move on and will improve, Allen will remain same old............ No thanks not for me.

Posted 16:45 12th June 2012

APV1 says...

@ leebok - thanks for the team list. Should I recognise any of the names? I try to catch a couple of S15 matches, but rarely get the Curry Cup. Any of these played for the Boks, for example?

Posted 16:17 12th June 2012

OJHolden says...

@leebok @melkdave

They have a dedicated rugby (Union and NRL) channel over in Thailand (and possibly elsewhere in Asia). So not entirely sure why Sky couldn't get one. But then there's an arguement as to why every sport couldn't get their own dedicated channel. I reckon there would have to be a dedicated football channel before they even thought about a rugby one.

Amazing idea though.

Posted 14:09 12th June 2012

heathy says...

Jeeze, who are we playing?? More's the point, why are we playing this team? Surely SA can come up with something better than this? My main worry is that this game just turns into a farce and once the SA Barbarians have thrown the kitchen sink at the England team and then run out of steam, England will start to run away with it. Then the problems start as is the case with so many SA midweek teams. Players realise the game is lost and then start to punch, kick, fight and do anything to injure players for the following test. It starts to become very dangerous. The refs also never seem to see any of it. I remember the Lions Tour in '98. This was absolutely horrendous. Remember Doddie Weir against Mpumalanga? He didn't play much after that. In fairness with technology and better opposition, the 2009 tour was not too bad but the opposition was better. Good luck guys, you're going to need it as this is a nothing game really.

Posted 11:32 12th June 2012

lawynd says...

@pierredelot1 - Allen got into the Tigers first XV because his defence and organisation was considered superior to Twelvetrees, and he helped back Flood up. I wouldn't worry about him in that regard. And whilst Waldrom isn't the future, I can't think of many better English 8s doing the rounds at the moment!

Posted 10:57 12th June 2012

pierredelot1 says...

Question is not Allens pace and step, but Allens ability to tackle that will be tested, never quite made it at the top level and I have a feeling he won't here either. Robson has been pretty good all season and if he can impress here he should be given a shout. Waldrom whilst solid is not my idea of a modern No 8 but lets see. Funny thing that Hodgson is the best attacking 10 of all of them, but runs out in the midweek team, oh that the two others could pass like him. Not the future I know.

Posted 09:04 12th June 2012

new_j4a says...

I think that this team is a bit of an insult to England. Aside from the fact that these are unheard of players, my main worry is that a few of them will have BokAvenger-like mentalities and go out to injure English players. I hope the ref has a pocket full of red cards. I really question the point of this IF this team is made up of tough, stupid, relatively talentless players looking for an opportunity to make a name for themselves by flooring a couple of POMs.....very bad for South African rugby and our image overseas.

By the way, I have the inside story on BokAvenger....not sure if I should share it....maybe next time.. :)

Posted 07:59 12th June 2012

leebok says...

@melkdave I think you will find F1 is a multi billion $ sport with a global audience, where as Rugby is played at a high level in about 12 countries.

Posted 07:46 12th June 2012

ArmchairGeneral says...

they better hope the baabaas get no position. Electric England backs but very light weight. Only Jordan T-H has any bulk in the backs. Avoid him and bash it up and they'll find holes. Could be embarrassing if there's parity up front which we should not rule out given it's South Africa. Not so sure this will be easy for England.

Posted 21:14 11th June 2012

TommyBoreham says...

Allen's pace and step with JTH's tackle, charge and distribution? Yes please!

Posted 20:46 11th June 2012

melkdave says...

Like the look of that team ,and realistically England should win and win well ,as all the Barbarain players are Currie cup players with no S15 players at all .So heres hoping for a big England win

On a side note wouldnt it be fantastic is SKY ,had a dedicated Rugby channal like they have for boring F1.So many good games not getting airtime like the Argentina-Italy test last weekend ,The upcomming Scotland tests ,and of course atm the Pacific nations cup ,and the JRWC matches, and upcomming IRB nations , Would be so great to at least see highlights of those matches Im pretty sure SKY would get alot of viewers for this channal LOL .Anyway alot more than they get for boring F1

Posted 20:22 11th June 2012

leebok says...

Here you go. SA Barbarians: Jacquin Jansen (Boland); Cornal Hendricks (Boland), Kempie Rautenbach (SWD), Wayne Stevens (EP Kings, capt), Norman Nelson (EP Kings); Elgar Watts (Boland), Boela Abrahams (EP Kings); Corne Fourie (Pumas), Hannes Franklin (EP Kings), Ross Geldenhuys (Boland), Nolan Clark (Boland), David Bulbring (EP Kings), Mpho Mbiyozo (EP Kings), Shaun Raubenheimer (SWD), Jacques Engelbrecht (EP Kings)

Replacements: Clemen Lewis (Boland), Dean Hopp (SWD), Samora Fihlani (Border), Zandre Jordaan (Boland), Ntando Kebe (Border), Ricardo Croy (Boland), Ntabeni Dukisa (Border).

Posted 19:01 11th June 2012

Dylbull says...

Who are the Southern Barbarians?

Can we have a team sheet PR? If the team has been named

Posted 16:57 11th June 2012

APV1 says...

Nice look to this team. Agian a balance of youth and experience, with youth coming a little to the fore.

We should win.

Should.

Posted 16:52 11th June 2012

Ulrich says...

Yeah England to win comfortably. The side is comprised of Vodacom Cup players from the northern part of the country.

Posted 16:49 11th June 2012

NHsaints says...

Jesus that's a strong midweek team...I'll accept no less than a comprehensive win from a midweek side like that...and if they don't they'll have shamed themselves.

Posted 16:26 11th June 2012

Jediboy says...

Looking forward to seeing Wade again. Exciting prospect.

Posted 16:18 11th June 2012

BokAvenger says...

England should win this as I have never heard of any of those Barbarians players. But one thing I can guarantee England is that it's going to be a physical examination and Haskell in particular will come in for some special attention thanks to his punching of Richard Downey earlier this eason. Won't be surpised if there are a couple of mass brawls in this game.

Posted 16:15 11th June 2012

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