Don't mention the All Blacks in Dublin any time soon
This week we will mostly be concerning ourselves with the Irish (on a number of issues), a legend and an appalling attempt at fraud...
So: Ireland. It's been a storm this week over all sorts of things, seemingly with the end result that by the time the green front arrived in Hamilton on Saturday it had blown itself out. Let's see what's been going on...
First up, there was the conflict over the refereeing of last week's Test - admittedly hardly fuelled by the players. There was Irish Times columnist Liam Toland, a former Leinster player, writing lucidly over what he saw as inconsistencies in Nigel Owens' interpretations during the second Test.
Owens took considerable umbrage to this, replying on Twitter (among other replies): ""if asked for confirmation on about 5 of the points he made, he wd have the correct answer but then wouldnt have an article wd he?"
And there, you'd think, the debate would lie. And you'd be wrong.
Toland's response ran thus: "I am very disappointed in being accused of bias...The laws are open to interpretation and that is the way the assessors sitting in the stands will see it. I am not accusing him of perverting the outcome of the match."
And so the long day wore on. But we here found ourselves falling on the side of Owens on this one... Toland not being biased? He's an Irishman, writing for an Irish paper with a pro-Irish agenda. It's his job to be biased and find in favour of Ireland. And if he's not accusing him of perverting the outcome of the match, why is he writing the article about tight marginal calls in a match decided on the last kick..? Mister Toland, me thinks thou dost protest too much...
Then came coach Les Kiss on drop goals. "If you go for a drop goal and miss then why should you get the ball back from a missed kick?" he asked. "That shouldn't have been their advantage. They went through it and missed it as we were good enough to stop it."
Fair enough... but Kiss is talking from the point of view of a country that has historically made a speciality of winning from late drop goals and indeed has benefitted down the years from precisely the charge-down law that this time proved critical in their undoing. Wasn't it just a bit of what goes around comes around...?
The Irish have legitimate grounds for anger over the yellow card shown to Rob Kearney on Saturday, a decision rightly labelled 'ridiculous' by both he and Brian O'Driscoll at the time. But do the Kiwis have legitimate grounds for anger over the lack of a card in the second Test as well? Take a look at this videobefore you answer - and yes, we are taking on board that this is a Kiwi journalist on a pro-Kiwi agenda...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS_Qi586rtE&feature=plcp
Despite Ronan O'Gara's denial, Steve Hansen looks to have been spot on when he described Ireland as reaching their tour peak in the second Test. Fortunately for us all, the wars of words reached their peak just after it as well - we doubt you'll find any Irishman willing to talk rugby for a couple of weeks after the third.
Back to referees and a much more heart-warming story than nit-picking twitter exchanges came this week at the IRB Junior World Championship, where Paul Dobson was presented with a lifetime achievement award by the IRB.
Dobson officiated in his first match in 1955 as a student in Pietermaritzburg, going on to referee more than 40 first-class matches in Western Province.
One of Dobson's lasting legacies was his drive to unify the two different Referees' Societies in South Africa, representing the then different Unions. By the end of 1991, Dobson had successfully navigated the merger and the referees were the first Rugby body to achieve this, a year ahead of the Unions becoming joined.
Another is Dobson's contribution in mentoring such refereeing luminaries as Andre Watson - for whom he also wrote a biography - and Jonathan Kaplan.
"It's always nice when your own people recognise you," said Dobson after receiving the Award.
"But they didn't have to do it. Danie Craven said, 'If you love something you never have to make sacrifices', so I've never made sacrifices or felt I was serving. I loved doing it. I loved being with referees, I loved the whole business of refereeing and I've been one since 1968.
"It's the friendship of it, being part of Rugby football in a very special way. I've met marvellous people from all over the world and that's been great. I've enjoyed it enormously."
It's a merited award for a fantastic fellow. Most top-level officials and players will have come across him at one time or another, all who have will be better off for the experience.
Poor old SARU don't half get it from all angles. This week, on top of the criticism of the national team and ongoing unrest over the Southern Kings fiasco, yet another fraudster has been using the SARU name (and email domain) to rip people off.
Still, you'd have to wonder at the mentality of anybody who did fall for this particular mail...
"The South African Springboks has made considerable progress and improvement, and we would have not been able to achieve this great heights without the help and support of our fans and supporters.
"We have therefore decided to give back to our fans and supporters by introducing: GET 130% - 150% RETURN IN 5 DAYS INVESTMENT."
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Loose Pass compiled by Richard Anderson








Comments
papachinzo says...
You clearly dislike the Irish, that's your problem. Everyone has the right to their opinion (be it good or bad), Making it public or not is their decision. Besides, most Rugby journalists haven't got a clue, especially pre-modern ex-Rugby players such a Toland.
What ever that video might show, the All Blacks cannot talk about who did and didn't get a card. If I'm correct, the last referee to show an All Black a card (Alan Lewis) was swiftly ousted from International Rugby.
Posted 14:52 26th June 2012
Cabhan says...
Editor, why don't you put the name of the author of these articles? I'd like to avoid any more tripe written by whoever this clown is.
Posted 14:36 26th June 2012
new_j4a says...
@crunchfit I watched the 57th minute and saw why you only produced a still photo. There is no comparison. Irish blindside (apt name?) should be banned for years. There is nothing in your counter example....a forearm across the face.
Posted 14:13 26th June 2012
HenryFitz says...
I'm curious. When did Ireland benefit from the chargedown law?
To be fair to referees, they can only referee what they see. Poite saw the knock-on. Owens did not see the face-pulling/gouge. That was the point of Toland's article. It was mildly critical of a referee for poor decision-making when he had a good view of proceedings. Given the importance of Owens's errors, I suppose it's lucky he made them against Ireland rather than New Zealand, as Wayne Barnes could testify.
"Fortunately for us all, the wars of words reached their peak just after it as well - we doubt you'll find any Irishman willing to talk rugby for a couple of weeks after the third."
This is highly disingenuous. I'm sure everyone at PR was glad of the article hits.
To prematurely talk rugby, the McCaw law had another success on Saturday with Ruchie tackling and coming in the side for another IRB-enabled mega-steal. Not wishing to be more than mildly critical in case one of the elite referees takes umbrage, but that law is unfair and misguided. Similar to the occasion when John Barclay stole the laid egg against France this year, there was no legal way for the supporting Irish player to clear Ruchie out of the ruck, as Mr McCaw was coming in from the side, and the supporting Irish player would have had to come in the side too to get at him. Why privilege the tackler to this extent? The only way for an attacking side to guard against this kind of trickery is to have at least two supporting players, one for either side of the ruck, coming directly behind the ball-carrier. 1 defender routinely trumps 2 attackers, so after every breakaway you have slow ball and the probability of a turnover. Unless you're New Zealand, in which case the support are permitted to dive straight over the top to protect the egg.
Posted 14:08 26th June 2012
Stoigen says...
Richard Anderson you are confusing Liam Toland with his SH colleagues. I have read articles damning Irish performances by Irish journalists. Whether it be poor coaching, tactics or play in general they will touch on it. It's something called rational thought. Unlike when an SH team gets beaten then it's a case of the blame game. No our opposition didn't win, we lost because of the ref, weather etc.
I'll put it to you this way. When a test is played between NH and SH sides. The NH commentators will show no bias they will get just as excited if the oppositon scores a great try. On the the other hand SH commentators only care when their team does something. The Aussies are the worst at this, yes that means you Phil Kearns.
Posted 13:33 26th June 2012
GCP_JONES says...
If Ireland were to host a test series against a team ranked 8 places below them,they would hope to but a cricket score on them too.NZ are ranked 1st and were 8th for a resaon. While the AB's were very impressive I wonder what good those test matches against such inept opposition would have done to Steve Hansens side?
Our national team has gone backwards since 2009, with maybe 2 good performances a year. How can a group of people who do nothing else for a living but play rugby put in such inept performances which reached its Zenith on Saturday.
This is simply not good enough, I for one am sick and tired of the plucky Irish Tag and their great fans rubbish.Kidney and his coaching staff not to mention the IRFU have to accept that they are ultimately at fault here, he should do whats right and resign, but as anybody with any knowledge of Irish life will tell you. people in the corridors of power don't do resignation.
Posted 12:44 26th June 2012
cianaherne says...
Bit harsh on the Irish and Toland. Nigel Owens made several dubious favourable decisions for NZ in the second test - including a few in the lead up to the final drop goal. There was a blatant knock on at a ruck for example that gave NZ an extra 10 metres when it should actually have been Irish possession. Used to it at this stage though, refs have been giving NZ big advantages over the years (no more so than in the WC final).
It comes with the territory of being the best team in the world though and the same happens in all sports. Ireland were far better and should have had the game won at that stage anyway so it was their own fault for letting it come down to refereeing decisions I guess.
Posted 12:32 26th June 2012
crunchfit says...
It's not Toland's job to be biased (Irish rugby writers also highlight the negatives usually), but I didn't agree with what he wrote. And Kiss was being an idiot. Wish they'd all just shut up and deal with it. They just make themselves look bad.
Seeing as you're referencing the McCaw gouge, don't forget to include this (while you're going on about bias and agendas) - 57th minute to see for yourselves: http://i48.tinypic.com/2j5mc74.png
Posted 12:31 26th June 2012
fozza says...
Slow week this week, although did enjoy reading about Mr Paul Dobson. Nice one.
Posted 12:22 26th June 2012