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Loose Pass

23rd April 2012 11:00

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This week we will mostly be concerning ourselves with slips of the tongue, comeback kings, naughty boys, fan issues and shopping lists...

The knives are being sharpened for Bob Skinstad after he let slip a racial term during his commentary of the Sharks-Chiefs game on Saturday.

"Lelia Masaga has gone head high in an absolute coconut tackle straight onto Lwazi Mvovo and tried to take his head off," he said.

For those who don't know, 'coconut' is a derogatory terms used in Oceania to refer to Pacific Islanders. It's not a good thing to say at all and especially not in the context it was used in, with both SA commentators seemingly outraged at Masaga's tackle.

But as ever, it's what has come after that makes for the most interesting reading. Skinstad said on Twitter: "Heard the term and thought it meant aiming for the 'nut' - no harm meant sorry."

Erm? Ok so 'nut' means 'head'... so from somewhere in the morass of tortured metaphors that constitutes the average Skinstad commentary we should presume there's a context he knows of where the prefix 'coco' means 'aiming for'?

We're not buying it. It was used in exasperation and anger (and we know he's a passionate and excitable chap), while Skinstad has been to New Zealand enough times to have picked up a few of the colloquialisms. Even people who haven't been there know what coconut means.

It will be interesting to see what happens from here. The SA broadcaster Supersport has not issued an apology yet, while Skinstad's lame attempt at eschewing himself from responsibility is truly an insult to intelligence.

SA presenter Darren Scott was sacked - subsequently he was virtually hounded out of the country - for using a racist term in a fallout with someone who owed him money. Will Skinstad be afforded similar disciplinary treatment?


Staying in SA, is Victor Matfield really going to make a comeback? He who wrote a column back in December on how he was enjoying not pushing his immense frame to the limit in pre-season and who has spent many an hour reaping in some very decent coin wearing his tailored threads on the sidelines for Supersport?

It is, of course, possible. But this is a comeback comparable to that of Lawrence Dallaglio's back in 2005/6: not one that is well-advised for the country and not one by any stretch guaranteed to end in glory.

Most of all, it begs the question: why bother? Heyneke Meyer has four years to mould a decent pair of locks together and fill the Bakkies/Victor gap and he's not exactly short of options in the rainbow nation.

It is said that Meyer's call is based on the need for leadership, but that doesn't follow either, not when you have a number of recent examples - Sam Warburton and Richie McCaw are two - where a coach has successfully identified a long-term leader in the squad to set the tone for the next four or eight years.

South Africa's team has spent a long time trying to re-bear itself from the continued choice of experience over potential, a choice which involved using players long past their sell-by date to the obvious and occasionally vocal frustration of those not being let in. More of the same from Meyer is not a good way forward.


Also not a good way forward is being nailed for doping when you are barely out of nappies, which happened to England schoolboy and Harlequin youngster Jonny Spelman last week.

Spelman was found guilty - he admitted it - of using testosterone, drostanolone (both anabolic steroids), growth hormone (GHRP6), human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG), clomid (clomiphene) and nolvadex (tamoxifen) for three months in 2011.

Hopefully that's a lesson learned for Spelman - whose mother is a Cabinet MP and tried desperately to stop the news leaking out as well as financing a good deal of expensive legal representation.

But let it be a wider lesson learned to schoolboys who have their dreams: once tainted with that stigma, it is very difficult to bounce back and be taken seriously.


What's going on with fans at the moment? We've got Edinburgh fans abusing Yoann Maestri until he cracks and lashes out, Bulls fans throwing bottles at players' heads (and he wasn't even banned from Loftus), serial booing of kicks and kickers everywhere... is this rugby?

It's hardly surprising that when Premier Rugby announced last week that tickets for the London Double Header would be sold in four blocks according to team, fans thought they were being segregated à la soccer (in fact it was just a breathtakingly simple logistical solution), but when you consider what goes on at some rugby grounds at the moment, could you really have blamed Premier Rugby if it had been segregation?

Where does the problem start? Who knows... money is clearly at the heart of it. But you hear stories of music being played over the tannoys to distract kickers, of club administrators boasting that it is their responsibility to do everything in their power to make sure the opposition fails... an IRB campaign to highlight the values of sportsmanship rugby used to adhere to is becoming overdue at the top level.


That includes issues of stealing staff. The dust kicked up by Bryan Redpath's speedy exit from Gloucester needs to settle before he takes up the role he has so obviously been courted for by Sale otherwise there will be a long-lasting bad feeling between the two.

Obviously? This is Steve Diamond attempting to deny Sale's approach: "If he is available, we are going to speak with him. Now he is available, he is on our shopping list."

So here we go... Redpath is linked with Sale. He denies it, but rumours continue. Just before Gloucester play Sale, Redpath resigns suddenly. Now he's on Sale's shopping list. You do the maths.


Finally, if you're up for a bit of Sevens action but can't afford the air fares to Hong Kong and such, why not get down to Oxford on May 26?

The RAF Spitfires Rugby Sevens Team is hosting a one-day invitational tournament featuring a dozen international and UK-based rugby teams, with proceeds distributed to three RAF chosen charities.

The impressive lineup will feature the RAF Spitfires, international sides such as Wales, Afghanistan, UWIC and Indian Side Rugby Uncle, as well as both Varsity Sevens sides. Leicester Tigers and Saracens are also to confirm their places.

All proceeds from the day's events will be donated between Khelo Rugby, which enriches children's lives through the playing and coaching of rugby in Kolkata, India, the RAF ExPOW Association, and the Royal Air Force Benevolent Fund.

Not sold yet? Strange... ok how about some free tickets? Simply send the answer to the question below to competitions.planetrugby@teamtalkmedia.com . Don't forget to include a contact number so we can get hold of you! (We promise not to give it to anyone else.)

Question: Who are the current IRB World Sevens Series champions?

Loose Pass compiled by Richard Anderson

Comments

BokAvenger says...

How on earth can people in Aus and NZ expect Skinstad to resign? Why should South Africans be expected to have an intimate knowledge of the racist lexicon of Oceania? But of course, Im forgetting something: In the rest of the world mommies warn their kids about the bogey man. In Oceania they warn them that the big bad "yarpies" [sic] will get them if they're naughty..hence the ridiculous bias.

Posted 14:46 23rd April 2012

yans says...

@APV1

look I haven't heard the Skinstad comments but you really need to understand that simply saying a supposed racist comment in public isn't in itself racist. Context, intent and understanding are fundamental to the situation. If he was unaware of the true meaning of the word then it is a malapropism, and therefore by definition cannot be racist in this instance

Posted 14:40 23rd April 2012

Dafydd29 says...

Ben7 thinks you are anti RSA but while the Spelman bit is good, it isn' true -just look at the Stevens case.

Posted 14:08 23rd April 2012

Celticspirit says...

Thank you ever so much, Richard/Planetrugby, for bringing up the horrific "footballisation" of the beautiful sport called Rugby football. I am shocked at the amount of times I hear booing before kicks, whcih is where it all starts really. But that a bottle is thrown at a Rugby game, even if it is the Bulls, probably the most likely place for such a thing to occur, makes me sick to the stomach. I took my girlfriend along to a Rugby stadium, Murrayfield for Scotland - England this year, for the first time. She said before the game that she was afraid of there being riot or at least some kind of (physical) violence in the stadium. At the time, I just laughed and assured her that this was not a football game and that even a Scotland-England game (one you dont want to experience in a football stadium) was absolutely and utterly safe, no reason to worry whatsoever. Now, I am sure this still holds true. But when I hear what happened at ("my very own") Murrayfield where I have never had any bad experiences - except for huge disappointments Rugby-wise - whatsoever, I wonder how much longer I will be able to say this in good confidence and conscience... I think it is time for some drastic measure, like banning people from a stadium for life, fines for booing etc. But most of all I would, in fact will, all by myself, start a campaign which I shall call: Wear the opponent's shirt. This can include swapping shirts for the day with another fan, one of the greatest gestures in Rugby. If enough people did this, it might reinstate the spirit of the game, respect, tolerance and even friendship. I just hope that someone will be with me on this (not necessarily the shirt-campaign) - for the sake of the game we all love.

Posted 13:44 23rd April 2012

TVaddict says...

@fozza

Agreed, I'd never heard that term before. From the internet (I recognise this is a bad source) I have got the feeling that racism is quite a problem in places like New Zealand. Does anyone know if that is the case or not? Having never been I have no idea.

Posted 13:37 23rd April 2012

BokAvenger says...

Oh pleeeaaaaseee!!! The anti-Saffa agenda at PR rolls on. Only Spiro Zavos is worse. Nut or Pip is a common SA term for your head - just like Aussies and Kiwis like to use the ridiculous term pill for a rugby ball. But even if his term Coconut tackle was not a reference to Nut (as in head) why on earth should a bizarre racist term in Oceania be known to South Africans? After all, Cocounut is a common term in SA for a black person who is trying to act white. ie. brown on the outside and white on the inside. And before PR brands me racist as well - it's a term mostly used by black people from the township to refer to other black people who have moved to the suburbs. There's even a TV series in SA called the Coconuts. But let me guess..in the eyes of PR that's racist too.

Posted 13:36 23rd April 2012

APV1 says...

First and foremost, BS didn't, "let slip a racial term..." it was (is) a racIST term.

But that aside, what a crock of BS. He should be sacked and fined. It doesn't matter that he "didn't understand" what he was saying, it's still a racist term used in public. His personal beliefs are his own business, but this is racism, pure and simple.

Too harsh..? I don't think so.

Bring back Bakkies and Matfield! No. Don't. It's not worth winning the Test series against us, if you don't develop your talented younger players. Have them in camp for their experience and leadership - who better in the world to mentor the new players - but not on the pitch. Otherwise you might as well give Martin Johnson a ring and ask him to take over the coaching. Winning at all costs? I'd rather see a stronger SA in 2015. (Actually I'd rather they were weaker, which might give England a better chance..!)

Don't do drugs. If you can't get to that level without them, you're not meant to be there. Play at a lower level and love the sport. Don't ruin it with false achievements.

I know that there are posters on this site who don't have an issue with poor sportsmanship, such as booing. I do. I want my boys to grow up knowing the values of rugby and one of them is sportmanship. That means you afford the opposition respect and courtesy and play them hard but fairly. It means that you stand a clap an injured player off the pitch. It means you shake hands with the opposition after the match and share a beer and a story. It means sharing a terrace with opposition fans and enjoying the banter and comraderie. Throwing things at them, booing or distracting players and other such antics are unwelcome.

BR's sudden departure does seem a little fishy, but what's to stop someone approaching him and him listening to their offer? Gloucester's law suit threat just seems like sour grapes to me.

Posted 13:23 23rd April 2012

hayj05 says...

Regarding what Stinkad said, I think there's no point assuming either way because only Stinkad knows if it was a cover up or not.

Posted 12:31 23rd April 2012

billybob says...

Bob Skinstad is a joke of a commentator, I remember during the lions tour he was practically saying that Luke Fitzgearld fell onto Schalke Burgers fingers. He's so bias towards South Africa its a joke.

Posted 12:20 23rd April 2012

Ben7 says...

I think this writer is just a little anti-south African

Posted 11:51 23rd April 2012

Storm says...

Was not offended by Skinstad's slip of the tongue. More offended by his and Kempson's accusations that Masaga's good old fashioned stand up tackle deserved a card.

Rugby is a collision sport not a contact sport!

Posted 11:43 23rd April 2012

fozza says...

Only thing I would say about the Skinstad thing is I've never heard the term and wouldn't know it was offensive... but I live in Scotland so it's not too suprising I don't know it. Will need to bow to other people's knowledge.

Posted 11:42 23rd April 2012

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