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15th November 2012 08:45

Hot and Not for November Tests

Hot: France's scrum

It is time for our weekly wrap up of who has their name in lights at the moment...and who is making the headlines for the wrong reasons.

You can't touch this!

Weekend winners: Victories were picked up by Samoa, USA, Japan, Italy, England, Argentina, South Africa, France and last but not least, New Zealand. Argentina used the experience garnered from their inaugural Rugby Championship campaign to brush aside Six Nations champions Wales 26-12 in Cardiff, but it's the French who will be wearing the widest smiles after recording their biggest win over the Wallabies in 36 years (33-6). England romped past Fiji to show they could also trouble the southern hemisphere powers this month; South Africa overcame a sluggish first-half display against Ireland to emerge 16-12 winners in Dublin and Scotland suffered a 51-22 loss at the hands of New Zealand with the hosts competitive for the bulk of an enthralling tussle at Murrayfield to wrap up the weekend's proceedings.

Frederic Michalak: Playing his first home game in donkey's years, the Frenchman contributed 15 points with a perfect kicking record of six from six, including a snap drop-goal and set up a try for Wesley Fofana. It was no surprise he left the Stade de France pitch to a standing ovation.

Robert Lilomaiava: Was the toast of Samoan rugby after the winger lit up Colwyn Bay with four tries on debut to help his team smash Canada 42-12 - sending a warning to their next opponents Wales in the process.

France front-row: The Wallabies' fragility at the set-piece has been well documented in the past and the French ruthlessly set about proving it remained a significant soft spot as they mauled Australia's scrum. It was no surprise the visitors' backline saw precious little ball as their hosts thumped away up front. Australia's problems will no doubt come as welcome news to the rest of their rivals on their European tour with England especially likely to test them in that area at Twickenham this weekend.

Mont-de-Marsan: The struggling Top 14 side finally tasted success in their eleventh attempt after beating Racing Metro in Paris - without a doubt the upset of the season thus far.

Leicester and Gloucester: The Tigers handed the Maori All Blacks their first defeat in five years by prevailing 32-24 at Welford Road. The tourists hadn't lost since the 2007 Churchill Cup final to England Saxons. Since then they'd beaten the likes of England and Ireland, but finally met their match with Leicester fly-half George Ford finishing with 22 points off his boot. Gloucester, meanwhile, came from 18-0 down after 33 minutes to beat Fiji 31-29 at Kingsholm.


Bbbrrrr... Someone turn up the heater!

Wales: The reigning Six Nations champions' hopes of securing a top-four seeding in the 2015 World Cup nosedived after losing to Argentina at the Millennium Stadium. It was Wales' fourth defeat on the bounce, their first at home since last December and a loss that leaves them with little chance of securing a top-four ranking on which top seeds will be based prior to the World Cup draw early next month. They have Samoa, New Zealand and Australia still to come over the next three weeks, with Wales having not beaten the All Blacks since 1953 whilst they've suffered seven successive defeats to the Wallabies.

Fiji: The islanders' RWC win against Wales and near upset over South Africa in the quarter-finals five years ago now seems like a distant memory. They were one of the disappointments in the 2011 World Cup and the direction they are travelling continues to be downhill following defeats to England and Gloucester.

Ban inconsistencies: Adam Thomson was on Wednesday given a one-week suspension for stomping on the head of Alasdair Strockosh while Wallaby lock Rob Simmons was handed an eight-week ban following his tip tackle on France's Yannick Nyanga. Needless to say, the fallout continues around the world.

Match officials at Stade de France: Sticking with Simmons - during the course of that match in Paris, referee Nigel Owens was heard apologising to the France team for the officials' failure to issue a red card for the challenge on Nyanga as they could not identify the tackler. We're baffled that between the three of them, nobody could pick out Simmons's number. Rumour has it Philippe Saint-André is sending them spectacles for X-mas.

Jamie Heaslip: Ireland's number eight and stand-in skipper was left to rue the yellow card shown to him that underpinned his side's 16-12 defeat in Dublin. The Irish led 12-3 when Heaslip was binned in the 43rd minute for collapsing a driving maul as the Springboks attacked their line. In his absence South Africa scored 10 points to establish a lead they retained throughout a dominant second-half.

By Dave Morris

Comments

tenpm says...

Thomson's one-week ban was light, but it's only taking the recent trend of light punishments to its logical extreme. The original sentence was two weeks, and it's hard to argue that that stomp deserved a longer sentence than Greyling's flying elbow. They need to sort these issues out, or these sort of actions will just get more and more common.

Posted 09:04 16th November 2012

new_j4a says...

@ben7, think of contact between boot and head as being a continuum from inadvertent contact with no impact through purposeful but gentle contact not designed to hurt or even blemish the skin, through purposeful contact designed to cause pain but not damage, through purposeful contact designed to cause pain and damage--say mild breaking of the skin, through purposeful etc. designed to temporary incapacitate a player, through...blah, blah, maiming, blah blah permanent disability. etc etc. I agree with JayStar, this was at the gentle, "hey, you are sealing off the ball," no harm intended end of that spectrum and there was no evidence of any intent to harm or even cause pain....and from what the "victim" says, no pain caused. So you choose where you draw the line, but I am with the judges in this case. In my opinion, the 1 week was intended as a message to others not to go down this road.

Posted 07:54 16th November 2012

Kiwidiver says...

I guess I could rant about Thommo's indiscretion not being the maiming attack that the Thug's Gallery are painting it to be, but for once I agree with APV in this regard. Intent, previous records, and severity have very little to do with punishment. Yep, Strockosh shouldn't have been where he was, but the "reminder" from Thommo wasn't necessary. A penalty for sealing off the ball could well have resulted in more points for the AB's. Instead his actions were totally needless and put his team at risk.

I'm a little embarassed as a Kiwi at the punishment awarded, especially in light of the flogging Simmons appears to have received. The two incidents are different it's true, but both are trying to be eradicated from the game.

....and yeah.....Fiji...right on APV. Hardly worthy targets for lambasting in the "Not Hot" column.

Posted 22:53 15th November 2012

missionary says...

Dan Carter is not hot? (erm...not in that way folks). Come on PR.

Posted 21:27 15th November 2012

ben7 says...

@JayStarr

Dont know what you think the definition of "stomp" is but thats what he did

Posted 21:18 15th November 2012

Isograford says...

Yeah those two bans don't even compare. One was a tap on the back of the head with a player wearing headgear, who said himself after the game it was nothing.

The other was a tackle that could have broken a players neck. Honestly, talk about making storms in very small teacups.

Wales will bounce back, every team has a bad game now and then, even the All Blacks.

Posted 20:45 15th November 2012

NHsaints says...

True Heaslip was poor (as he has been for a couple of years for Ireland now, give Wilson a bloody go in the 8 jersey or keep SOB there permanently) but he brought down the mall and took the fall for the team to stop the irish being bundled back over their own line, that's what a good captain should do so I'm defending his position from here.

Posted 19:30 15th November 2012

mlbp says...

@ curates_egg

Betsen would love to be flanking alongside Magne and Harinordoquy, the three of them together like in 2003...

I think you mean Yannick Nyanga, not Serge Betsen. Their style is really different, though. Nyanga loves to run with the ball, Betsen was a tackler mostly...

Posted 17:19 15th November 2012

SMV16 says...

Completely stupid to compare the two bans from the games. Not trying to defend the inconsistencies that do occur but if the two players had received the same ban I would have been shocked.

Posted 17:05 15th November 2012

curates_egg says...

What about Betsen's return? Great to see him finally back. Real good balance to that French backrow finally. Imagine when Hari comes back!

Posted 15:44 15th November 2012

Bridgers says...

As I have been saying to anyone who will listen for years now, the Assistant Referees at top level are not! They are referees and are not watching what a full-time assistant is coached to watch (i.e. watch the ref's back). Any half-decent Premiership AR would have been watching off the ball and spotted the culprit.

Posted 14:52 15th November 2012

JayStarr says...

Thompson did not "STOMP" on the head of that player... He at best "tapped" his head with his foot. I'm all for the 1 week suspension - you can't make contact with a player's head - but don't make the incident something it wasn't.

Posted 14:06 15th November 2012

liam2me says...

Heaslip is probably the most overrated player in Irish rugby, hasn't played well in a green jersey in years.

Posted 13:24 15th November 2012

APV1 says...

Well that makes a pleasant change - I can't argue with any of that. Perhaps a bit harsh on Fiji, but otherwise, spot on.

I'm particularly heartened to read your support for the nonsense sanctions and lack of consistency with the disciplinaries. Oh, it makes me mad!! If I was a 14 year old girl I would type "Grrrrrr!". But I'm not. So I shan't.

On another thread I posted a quote from a chap from another blog. He is a low-level ref and stated that if he doesn't know who the culprit is, he asks the captain to identify them. If the captain can't (or won't), the captain receives the punishment in their place. Is this actually legal and allowed? If so, I think it would have been very effective in the Simmons incident, because the French did not get their deserved advantage by playing against 14 men for the remainder of the match. Not that it mattered, I suppose, but the principal is important.

Posted 11:05 15th November 2012

3in4 says...

@3in4

While we're bashing Heaslip, why not put a few other Irish players in 'Not Hot': Murray for his predictably slow ball, Earls for his predictably aimless running, or O'Gara for his bizarre chip over the top that handed SA the match when the team was edging down the field.

Posted 10:52 15th November 2012

GCP_jones says...

Wales maybe regretting letting so many of there players move-on from their domestic clubs, every day you are reading that another player is being linked to a club in England or France this can't be a good thing.

Re; Jamie Heaslip, there was a time when 'Captain Fantastic' played your were gauranteed a decent to excellent performance week in- week out, sadly this hasn't been the case for about 2 seasons now. I realy hope that both Roger Wilson and Sean O'Brien get a run at No 8 so we can do Ireland (& Heaslip) a favour by picking either of them when the 6N's gets under way.

I'am not a fan of the Lions Tours but for me if Gatland has any sense Nick Easter should be the staring No8

Posted 10:08 15th November 2012

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