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RooiRugby20 less of the personal attacks.Just because I differ from you does not make me an idiot. Please I have no problem if you say that my ideas are idiotic but to say I am is really insulting. So in future attack my ideas not me personally. I note a very defensive attitude in this thread.
Posted 06:16 25th May 2012
Ramage...you are an idiot... To say that it¿s a kick in the teeth...it is a kick in the teeth for the sport we all love & care for when we say that it¿s only open to local talent to play in South African teams... How is a sport to grow when all you want are one or two or three or however many countries with a few local talents... Rugby won¿t grow... The only way you truly develop players is when there is a large amount of competition from different players & countries...take the sport of soccer or football or even NBA they all have grown as a whole by including & embracing talents from around the world.
Posted 17:25 23rd May 2012
So the end justifies the means, now where have I heard that before? Just shows how far sport has come. Lol.
Posted 13:51 23rd May 2012
@Ramage, I would say usage of 'non-existent' in terms of player development is a tad dramatic in this scenario. But players can't just be thrown in the deep end. Their confidence has to be brought on slowly, esp. in a rugby first environment like South Africa. That said I would agree that for a team that's never won a Super Rugby trophy, yes winning at all costs is the key right now. A championship season would do more for the long term development of youth rugby in Capetown than blooding one or two developing loose-forwards ever could.
Posted 15:57 22nd May 2012
Ummm...the WPRU has already issued a statement saying that they're putting the procurement of new loosies behind them. The fact is that they'll only be having depth issues for another 2 weeks before their injured players return.
Posted 15:40 22nd May 2012
So development of rugby players in the Cape is non existent. Is that what you are saying and winning at all cost is the aim?
Posted 14:09 22nd May 2012
@Ramage, you basically just made our point when you said the Stormers are being short-sighted. The short term goal is to win the Super Rugby trophy; you do that now by bringing in experience not blooding a youngster. For the long term, these injured players eventually return and the young players get blooded slowly, not in a play-off environment.
Posted 13:31 22nd May 2012
I think people forget to realise that the youngsters they brought through are Siya Kolisi and Nizaam Carr, and that if they are included and Vermuelen, Koster, Carr, Burger et al are all crocked then the next best youngster might not be quite so good. Depth isn't limitless and it's not totally unrealistic that even the Stormers would be scraping the barrel for local talent when so many men are out.
Posted 12:49 22nd May 2012
First I am not questioning the right and need of the Stormers to employ these players. But I do think that it is shortsighted of the franchise. The team did lose one of their up and comers to injury but how come this team which found itself in the same situation last year and employed that dodgy move. Where is the look to the future. I know it is wrong to compare as different countries have different rules. If the Chiefs and the Crusaders found themselves in this position they too might be forced to go to players in the UK only they would be NZers. Similar to the Highlanders who brought in Mike Delaney. The Bulls lost a large number of senior players and have blooded some fine young players.This just goes to show that if you look at your local talent and recruit wisely in your own country then the need to employ foreign players in you team recedes. As I say it is interesting to see and maybe just maybe the Stormers are not as strong as we think. We shall see. C'mon the Sharks lol.
Posted 09:49 22nd May 2012
clever move stormers -- or stormers move clever - - Yoda would say` stormers clever move `-- going to japan to buy an american to bring to SA --sounds like to first line of a joke --- sushi burger meets boerwors !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 09:41 22nd May 2012
Todd is one of my fav international players. 100% commitment. A fantastic role model for anyone from any country. Also, with the Stormers looking for home advantage all the way to the super rugby final, they need quality experienced players to fight off the Chiefs.
Posted 09:40 22nd May 2012
The stormers need all they can get right now,and youngsters won't suffice,and whenever stormers brings up a good youngster,they get snapped up by another south african franchise...
Posted 08:59 22nd May 2012
South Africa's depth shouldn't be in question but the Stormers are competing for a title and need experience. Clever has played Super and Currie Cup Rugby and Sinclair is also a pro at a high level. South African fans shouldn't feel negatively about these temporary moves. The Stormers want tested players over nervous new-comers for the short term. I'm pumped for Clever and frankly didn't think he should've left the Lions in the first place.
Posted 01:52 22nd May 2012
@Ramage.....this team is not lower mid table, they are top of their conference and barring a miracle will make the playoffs and probably the semis. with so much at stake at the top of the table, you can't just chuck in youngsters and expect them to be amazing in the latter stages of the season. imagine if leinster had lost o'brien and heaslip to injury at the weekend. do you think they would've been thrilled to throw in a couple of 18 year olds. also, even before the playoffs, the stormers play tons of local derbies. it is a bit of a baptism of fire if a teenager who is thrown in to compete one on one with spies, alberts, brussouw, strauss, etc.....if this was week one you might be right, but forgive the stormers for not wanting to take gambles when they're at the top of the log
Posted 22:06 21st May 2012
Go Todd Clever!
Posted 19:22 21st May 2012
Very interesting this team gets injuries and they rush off to the UK to get players from the countless International players over there. What is wrong with some young players from South Africa? Interesting. What I have seen of the young players in other South African franchises has been impressive. What a kick in the teeth to up and coming South African youngsters.
Posted 16:56 21st May 2012