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@ Wallaroo - I'm looking forward to the "Team of the Super Semi-Finals" thread...
Posted 10:22 30th July 2012
@Tah_Mai - actually, betting on the Hurricanes games is probably one of the safest bets this season. As long as you bet on total points, as they either scored or conceded a lot ;-).
Posted 08:41 30th July 2012
Trinats2 - I merely quoted the NZ site to show a comparison, and added my opinion. Is that not allowed either? This is after all a forum. The NZ odds are exactly that - what a gambler can get in NZ, and as with most countries I suspect, they are skewed in favour of the locals - the odds get driven down on a heavily-supported side.
I don't gamble (and any Hurricanes supporter should also abstain imo!). Re Chiefs/Reds. Wow - isn't that what betting is about - a gamble? A risk?
Posted 00:46 30th July 2012
@tha_mai - the site I normally use has SAF at longer odds than AUS, but I personally can't see NZ losing enough games for SAF to finish top.
I've requested the odds from Bet365 for last place, so I'll see what they say. But if AUS are 10-1 or better, then, in my opinion, it's certainly worth a bet.
@Trinats2, obviously his site would have had the Crusaders to beat the Rebels, so would an Aussie site.
However, I'm guessing that you're actually trying to make some sort of point about the site getting its odds wrong. An Aussie site won't have AUS at a shorter price because they think they'll win, but because more Aussies will vote on AUS and therefore the price comes down.
Posted 15:44 29th July 2012
I see you use a kiwi site, an Aus site has different and I'm sure a saffa site will differ too. Is your site the same site that had the Crusaders to beat the Rebels ? or Chiefs to beat the Reds this year?
What odds did it have last year for Aus to win the Tri nations ?
Posted 12:57 29th July 2012
markpat - more gambling odds, these from NZ's TAB site, based on the retrun for every $1 invested:
NZ 1.50, SA 4.25, Au 5.00, Arg 100.00
SA would be worth a bet imo, forget the last two as winners; no odds yet on who'll place 4th.
Posted 09:32 29th July 2012
@Trinats2 - Currently I can't find odds on last place, however, current odds on wining are AUS 10/3 and ARG 66/1.
Now, if you fancy equating those odds for last place, I'd be happy to place a £50 at 20-1. £50 to you if ARG finish 4th and £1000 to me if AUS do.
If you want to put your money where your remarkably big mouth is? You can normally create the bet on the BetFair site at whatever odds you want.
Posted 04:32 29th July 2012
@TheTruthHurts - I'm sorry, I thoguht everyone on here was an armchair critic, or are you playing in the Championship?
@Trinats2 - no, you obviously aren't a betting man. What odds are you giving and if the price is right, I'd be happy to place the bet with you (doubt that you'd pay, though, as you'd come up with all sorts of excuses).
Why do I have to remember back more than this season, when we're discussing current form? I made it clear that in previous seasons I have respected Australian attacking rugby, but this year they have all been boring as hell.
The difference between me and some of you is that I seem to watching the rugby with 2 eyes and without those light-red cloured glasses.
As for SAF vying for wooden soon, I don't see it myself. NZ clear #1, SAF clear #2, AUS "should" be 3rd with ARG hoping to show respectability in their first season, however, I rate Argentina higher than Ireland, especially in Argentina.
I'm hoping Australia prove me wrong and play some good rugby, I just don't see it happening this year.
Posted 04:26 29th July 2012
APV1 - LOL, what a mediocre comeback. Time for you to step up mate -:).
Posted 10:29 28th July 2012
Well said APV1 but you have to remember Trinats lives in Queensland, they only recently gave women the vote and decreed that sawdust was no longer suitable for bar room floors. You have to feel for the Red's, the only team to have injuries, (no depth to cover those injuries) suspensions, bad refs and hoodoo grounds. As for 2003 the Wannabies they "choked" in that final, even then they tried to shore up their lack of depth by buying RL players and there was one of them kicking the ball out with a couple of mins left to play and setting up one JW for the drop. Pressure of the hometown crowd has always been too much for them.
Posted 04:10 28th July 2012
@ Wallaroo - not so much a novice - I've been stirring for years - just bad at it!
Posted 15:32 27th July 2012
where do you live mate? in a bubble ? the famous ulster/ springbok/ all singing and dancing scrum half --- check out the Bok team that played england recently , and the world cup -or go on the ulster rugby website -- or just google --
Posted 15:03 27th July 2012
Congrats Mr Genia on a well deserved player of the year award. Agree with some others that it really was a toss up between 2 Genia and Higginbotham, either would have been fair.
This article is to celebrate the rewards bestowed on a true champion, as usual the article has lost it's intent and celebratory intent which is a shame.
For once and for all. NB!!! APV1 is always stirring, unfortunately he is a novice at banter and therefore mediocre at best. Keep smiling and remember he's English (one of the reasons he does it speak it proper).
Trinats, mate there is a lot of freedom in giving praise, ask any New South Welshman one thing we have learned is there is honour in humility. BTW a disallowed legitimate try was compensated by a try resulting from a forward pass so factoring that in is also important but do agree that there were some other mitigating factors. Would that changed the result, I believe it may have but unfortunately not enough to have beaten the Sharks. Seriously mate, the ref didn't influence the game. Well not as far we are concerned in NSW (remember we were all shouting for QLD).
Posted 13:20 27th July 2012
ruckingkiwi - that was a cheap shot about them needing foreign players; only 60% of the 5 prizewinners were born outside Australia!
Posted 12:59 27th July 2012
tha_mai, come down Auckland 1st XV or club rugby on Saturdays, it's a catfight between the aussie union and aussie league scouts.
Trinats says.. "Play the Reds v Sharks game again with Cooper in and not losing a 10 and hooker after 20 mins and Giena moving out of position, then there would be not shock result"
What he means is, the Reds need their foreign born players to be any good.
Posted 11:32 27th July 2012
Who is ruan pienaar ? has he played at international level ?
Giena is already right up there with the greatest ever, Nick Farr-Jones and George Gregan.
Posted 10:54 27th July 2012
@ Trinats2 - it's always excuses isn't it? Can't you just accept that Aus get beaten, fair and square, on occassion? It's only a "shock defeat" to you. Most other Aussies manage to be gracious in defeat and accept that it happens.
Why, for example, did they lose the 2003 RWC Final? I'm sure you'll have some brilliant excuse and reason. When, in fact, it was because they just didn't score as many points as England. Nothing more complicated than that.
It's always, "...so-and-so was injured..." or "...coming off the back of a Super 15 game..." or "... the ref allowed a clear forward pass..." or "... the ref disallowed a clear try..." or some other lame excuse.
Just accept it:
AUSTRALIA GET BEATEN SOMETIMES. FAIR AND SQUARE.
Your incessant drivvel is mind-numbingly repetative and just nonsense.
Humble in victory, gracious in defeat. Remember that?
Posted 10:25 27th July 2012
@darthbok, Pienaar is a damn good player and i can see where you are coming from... but just IMHO i'd still pick Genia ;)
Posted 09:40 27th July 2012
if youse-all had a choice , in a world 15 , would you pick Genia? -- personally i would pick ruan pienaar-- more physical, better defence, better kicking -- genia has the edge in attack though ----
Posted 08:43 27th July 2012
Trinats2 - "but I'm not stupid" there, there, have another cup of tea.
I see Jake W off to SA recruiting for Brumbies and ARU next month - for a player who will meet the 3yr residency for 2015 RWC; top marks for the player development system!
Posted 06:36 27th July 2012
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