Chiefs

ruckingkiwi says...

"The point being made is that SBW is a poser rather than a serious rugby player"

Chicka, that is a personal opinion and not fact.

Facts are the points which tha_mai has listed.

It's obvious from your comments you're a wind-up or an idiot, however the fact remains SBW has been selected to the worlds best rugby team by far more educated rugby minds than you or I indicates he's pretty good at what he does.

Haha, the support of hundreds of my countrymen, compared to a population of what, 4 million.. errr, nice.

Logic suggests you're an idiot.

Posted 01:47 05th June 2012

Chicka says...

ruckingkiwi & tha_mai - hmmmm

Can't win the argument so attack the messenger! What tha_mai said was clearly non-sensical - just look at his/her post in conjunction with what I had written and you will see that his/her argument does not make logical sense. Don't know how you can defend that - but you tried so - hey - you probably both were in the same "logic" class in the philosophy department in a "university" in a country not renowned for its intellectual capacity.

The point being made is that SBW is a poser rather than a serious rugby player (or a boxer for that matter) and that is a valid point - despite the personal attack on me. From the Australian side - Australia has a worse track record than our trans Tasman cousins. We sacked the - at the time - world's greatest winger (Joe Roff) for the atrocious Wendell Sailor - so we appreciate full well what it is like to cling to over self-promoted garbage at the expense of quality.

You should appreciate my input (and re-take that course in logic at the institution that wouldn't pass for a kindergarten in any other country in the world but is satisfactory as a university in New Zealand) and agree that SBW will not make a positive contribution to the All Black's fortunes going forward. In this opinion I am fortified by the support of hundreds of your countrymen (obviously Australian educated - as any Kiwi with an "education" is).

This is not criticism, just my heartfelt desire not to see the ABs drop into rugby irrelevancy. Think about it.

XxX

Posted 15:43 20th May 2012

Chicka says...

tha_mai - you MUST be a Kiwi as your logic is astonishing!

"there is not one player who beats SBW in all of the following categories" ???!!!

Of course there is not one player who beats him in ALL of those categories if he is no. 1 in offloads! You must be a University of Auckland PhD.

Ranking him 9th in the number of runs this season doesn't mark him out as one of the games legends either.

I stand by what I said: "As a rugby player he is a decent amateur boxer. As a professional boxer, he is an average fringe rugby player". Olympic qualifying ego and superb self promotion does NOT make you a world class rugby player. kentaff spot on when you say he is the Gavin Henson of New Zealand! He also does a pretty good Danny Cipriani impersonation too.

Posted 20:19 19th May 2012

kinsman says...

Apologies APV1, misinterpreted your query.....

Posted 15:12 18th May 2012

Ramage says...

The answer APV1 is a definitive no.

Posted 14:49 18th May 2012

tha_mai says...

APV1 - great concept! but no, players must be attached to a rugby club and a province (for ITM Cup) within NZ, even though ABs only rarely get to play for clubs these days.

Posted 10:02 18th May 2012

kenttaff says...

he is the gavin henson of new zealand...... now il wait and get hit by the flack

Posted 08:30 18th May 2012

jonesy2 says...

he will be playing NRL next year. of that there is little doubt. i for one am just glad that he came across from league and became one of the best players in the world while winning the RWC with the allblacks and hopefully the super rugby title with the chiefs. he has earnt the right to do what the hell he pleases from now on whenever he wants. of course i hope he stays at the chiefs until the next world cup.

Posted 06:53 18th May 2012