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11th February 2013 15:19
Ireland prop Cian Healy has been cited for his stamp on England tighthead Dan Cole during last Sunday's fixture in Dublin.
The alleged act of foul play is contrary to Law 10.4 (b).
The player's hearing, before an independent Six Nations Disciplinary Committee appointed by Professor Lorne Crerar, Chairman of the Six Nations Disciplinary Panel, will be held in London on Wednesday 13 February 2013.
The minimum entry point for stamping varies from two weeks to nine weeks depending on severity.
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backnforward says...
Wow, I stand (actually lay, as I fell over when I read the verdict!) corrected...
http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8497872,00.html
Posted 18:17 13th February 2013
backnforward says...
Todays the day...
Let's see now, minimum end of the scale (2 weeks) due to provocation of someone leaving an ankle, that needed breaking, in front of him. 2 weeks reduced to 1 week due to excellent record and pleading guilty.
So 1 week me thinks! Nothing to do with the fact that there is no international this weekend??!?!?
Let's see what the disciplinary bods come up with and I bet I'm not far wrong!
Posted 17:15 13th February 2013
Coshie78 says...
anyone who cannot differentiate this act from rucking is stupid...
anyone who can and still thinks it's appectable is worse...
anyone who thinks he'll get the appropriate punishment is naive...
Posted 16:52 13th February 2013
Norm says...
TV Addict
Well at least you dont generalise! Read my post again, and last time I checked I was an irish fan. Idiots post on here and there idiocy cannot be correlated to nationality but rather their mentality.
On that note, Ben7, thats it? Thats your insightful comment on the subject? Well done
Posted 12:31 13th February 2013
Ben7 says...
Dirty potato...
Posted 22:21 12th February 2013
mcdb06 says...
Should get 4 to 6 weeks. Very dangerous play.
Posted 20:15 12th February 2013
heathy says...
@Propmelsey - You mean Happy Máirt Inide to the Irish boys.
Fill your boots guys as tomorrow it all stops!! :)
Posted 15:48 12th February 2013
Propmelsey says...
Can i just take a moment of eveyones very important time on Planet Rugga to send my best wishes to all those unfortunate Irish lads born on this here day..... where do the years go boys ....... Happy Birthday Pancake!!! ..... x
Posted 14:10 12th February 2013
TVaddict says...
It's funny how when an English player punches someone you're already arranging a lynching mob, but when an Irish player does a deliberate act to seriously injure a player it's fine. Talk about bias! Four weeks should be in minimum for this as it's comparable to eye gouging, a deliberate act to injure a player who cannot defend himself which could result in long term damage.
As for the South Africans who are saying it's fine, well done for living up to your thugish reputation. Luckily I know lot's of reasonable South Africans, so I'm guessing you guys are from backwater inbred area rather than true representation of the country.
Posted 13:58 12th February 2013
makemehappy says...
Very dangerous act - can't argue with at least 8 weeks, but god only knows how these panels work. Frankly it is in the interest of rugby itself to punish such clearly brutal and intentional acts, very harshly.
Posted 13:08 12th February 2013
heart_of_oak says...
Norm - my sentiments entirely. The 'man up' brigade, or those who perpetually say things like 'its a hard sport - deal with it' offer nothing to this debate except a medieval attitude. Healey committed a foul, was seen doing it, has been cited and this is all as it should be. Moreover, I think we can and should expect that players do not stamp on other players, no matter what the other player is doing. Where would this attitude lead ? Suppose I saw someone stopping a player from releasing the ball - would it be ok for me to knee that player in the groin ?
If a player sees an indiscretion, then the acceptable and sensible reaction is that they should point it out to the referee who should take action on it. We cannot condone players taking the law into their own hands or in this case, feet. To make this a realistic approach and discourage players from acting as Healey did, referees should be accountable for their performance. Those who consistently fail to penalise foul play or who do not apply the rules correctly should not officiate at other matches.
That's an ideal world of course.....
Posted 13:03 12th February 2013
Houston_11 says...
As an Irish fan, I was disappointed to see that - I think Healy lost his head a bit in the first half... he was at the centre of every scuffle.
The citing commission is ridiculous though - tough one to call because it's deliberate with no damage done, and a good record.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the weeks ban, I'd rather see bans done on number of games. Someone mentioned he'd get two weeks and reduced to 1 for pleading guilty.... if that happens is he even going to miss a game!?
As an Ireland fan, I hope he's back for Scotland.
As a rugby; it needs sorting out.
Posted 12:39 12th February 2013
lawynd says...
@99call - rucking a player lying all over the ball isn't the same as stamping on a player; never has been, never will be. I suspect you've never played rugby (or were a poncey back if you did) because everyone that has knows the difference, and only blind national loyalty would lead to someone justifying this act, in that event. If you think Cole was stopping the ball illegally that's your lookout but it is the job of the referee to stop that, not a player on the opposition. And if we're going down that route, that it's a-ok to punish players who commit technical offences, then every player on both teams should have left the field with some broken bones and teeth missing.
Posted 11:58 12th February 2013
ArmchairGeneral says...
Heart of oak. I think we're all taking track record into account. Hartley would get 10 weeks IF he were to stoop to that but he has not so let's not criticise a player who has not committed the offence more than they guy who did quite purposefully and blatantly.
no witch-hunt. not harsh. 5 weeks. It's obvious. Less than 4 is a travesty. More than 6 ignores his track record.
Posted 11:44 12th February 2013
Norm says...
Heart of oak, I dont recall him being cited at test level before, so you would have to say the guy has a good record.
But he stamped on Cole, could have broke his ankle so he will get a ban. If serial offender Hartley gets 2 weeks for striking, then Healeys good record should mean a minimum offence also.
I do think the disciplinary set up is ridiculously inconsistent, however looking at parity with recent bans Healy should get 2 with a weeks off for good behaviour.
Is that just for what he did? no!
Would a 6 week ban be fair in light of recent other citings? hell no!
Great player, hard player, made a mistake, will take it on the chin and will go on to destroy Australia in the summer!
Posted 11:05 12th February 2013
lacroix says...
It was a serious and deliberate attempt to take out a player and should get a ban commensurate with that- months, not weeks. if thats not a serious stamping offence what is?
as others have said doubtless the ban will be laughably small- one or two weeks.
his record is irrelevant- what he has or hasnt got away with before. he should be punished on the basis of this offence.
all very shameful really.
Posted 11:00 12th February 2013
Heathy says...
@ heart_of_oak - Look at earlier posts (including mine). We have said that we believe Healy's record to be good. I stated that this seems out of character. It doesn't mean it was okay and shouldn't be punished but I suspect it will be fairly lenient. You know how these citing farces go?
Posted 10:48 12th February 2013
rugby_rockstar says...
Congrats to the Six nations disciplinary process on getting it right so far. I think three weeks is about right. Preferably starting on the 23rd feb so he misses two 6n matches. That'll send a message to all countries that if you indulge in foul play while wearing your national jersey then it's your entire country that you've let down.
Oh and when he's done his time then thats that. Clean slate. I don't see the point in the old King Henry II fur coat inside-out penance thing for the rest of his career. If he chopped up an arch bishop with a broadsword then okay you can go on and on about it forever because its a great after dinner story. ;), but otherwise. He should be punished strongly enough for the message to get through to every contry that its a stupid thing to do that'll have dire consequences for their team and that should be that. 3 weeks is fair for foul play that didn't cause lasting damage to the victim.
Posted 09:48 12th February 2013
ferdie says...
one for thejury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXmUP02wXOk
Posted 09:32 12th February 2013
99call says...
What is wrong with you lot we're not playing football here if a player lies on the wrong side with his leg up in the air clearly trying to stop the 9 getting the ball away cleanly he deserves what ever he gets
You can see the incident on youtube and Cole had plenty of time and space to move away but diliberatly holds his leg over the ball to stop Murray getting it so Im sorry but I see nothing wrong with it and the one thing is for sure he didnt get himself in that position again
You see players clearing out with their feet all game especially scrum halfs and nothing is said about it and what about Sexton getting one to the face last week in Cardiff didnt hear anything about that either
He will get a ban and will miss the scotland game but will be back after that but even thats too much as if we ban players every time they do this theyd be no one left to play
Posted 09:20 12th February 2013