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Preview: Scotland v South Africa

16th November 2012 07:02

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Scrum battle: Steenkamp v Murray

Springbok fans will expect a convincing victory at Murrayfield on Saturday but Scotland have reason to believe they can win. Stranger things have happened!

Indeed, the last time South Africa visited the Scottish capital, in 2010, they were given a rude awakening as Dan Parks kicked the hosts to victory. Two years earlier, the Boks needed a late try from Jaque Fourie to snatch the win after being outplayed for long periods.

Ask any Aussie fan if Scotland are capable of upsetting the big guns in world rugby and you're likely to get a sheepish answer. Victory over the Wallabies in 2009 and an unbeaten southern hemisphere tour in June further strengthen the Scot's credentials as giant slayers.

Of course, it's easy to write the home side off after the All Blacks put 50 points past them last week, but Sunday's scoreboard reveals another statistic that South African fans should take into consideration before betting their life savings on a Bok victory.

Scotland scored three tries against New Zealand - becoming the first team to do so since the all-conquering Kiwis started their 18-game unbeaten streak in August last year. By comparison, it's taken South Africa four games to score that many tries against the All Blacks.

There will be no drubbing this weekend. Quite simply, the Springboks have neither the attacking prowess nor the mindset to follow the example set by New Zealand.

Two midweek comments - one from either camp - best sum up what we can expect to see on Saturday.

"Attack puts bums in seats but defence wins trophies," said Heyneke Meyer, in a perfect illustration of his 'safety first' approach to the game that explains not only many of the Bok coach's selections but also his team's chronic lack of creativity.

The other soundbite worth repeating is from Zimbabwean-born and South African-raised Scotland back-rower David Denton, who believes the Springboks' physical approach will suit his side.

The Scots couldn't match the All Blacks' attacking genius but they gave them a good run for their money in the tight exchanges and Denton reckons they can do they same again.

"These Boks'.. tempo is a lot slower and they are a lot more physical but we can definitely handle that," said Denton.

Saying that you 'definitely handle' the guaranteed green and gold onslaught is one thing, actually doing it when the Bok battering ram starts hammering away is an entirely different prospect. You can be sure that Andy Robinson has been drilling home one point in particular all week, and Denton hit the nail on the head when he said "you can't win matches if you don't make your tackles."

Yes, defence - the Springboks' number one priority, their bread and butter, the crux or their gameplan - has been Scotland's Achilles heel for years. The Bok attack might not be flash, that you can bet your bottom dollar on the waves of big, straight runners being relentless. How long the Scottish line will hold is the key question.

Add to the equation the South African maul, which is probably the best the world game right now. If the Scots can't stop it rolling towards the whitewash, their fate will be similar to that suffered by Ireland last week.

Players to watch:

For Scotland: Educated in South Africa's Eastern Cape, David Denton's selection at number eight forces captain Kelly Brown to shift to blindside flank. 22-year-old Denton was a revelation during the Six Nations but missed the June tour with an ankle injury and has made a slow start to the season with Edinburgh. He needs a series a big performances to get back into the reckoning for the British and Irish Lions squad. Up front, Euan Murray - who missed the All Blacks game on Sunday due to his religious beliefs - has been added to the front-row to bring some bulk and grunt at scrum time. He takes the place of Geoff Cross, who scored a try last week, but while Robinson was anxious to point out that Cross did little wrong, Murray's power in the set-piece will be needed.

For South Africa: There are only four survivors in the starting XV from the team that was shocked at Murrayfield two years ago: Francois Hougaard, Jean de Villiers, Zane Kirchner and Jannie du Plessis. Filling the gap left by Jaque Fourie at outside centre has been a problem area for the Boks and Juan de Jongh is finally been given his chance. Many have questioned whether the 1.75m, 85kg Stormers centre is big enough for the role but De Jongh has promised to "prove all the people who believe I shouldn't be there wrong." Before he headed to Toulouse, Gurthrö Steenkamp was regarded as one of the strongest props in the game. The scrummaging experts reckon his stint in France has made him even better. His return to the Bok camp is significant.

Head-to-head: The clash between Scotland's best attacking weapon and South Africa's Players' Player of the Year is set to be a classic. A try for JP Pietersen would see the wing overtake Chester Williams's 14 tries for South Africa while the flying Dutchman Tim Visser is well on his way to becoming a great Scot. As mentioned above, the battle between to great scrummagers, Murray - who gave the Boks a working over in 2008 and 2010 - and Steenkamp should be good to watch.

Previous results:2010: Scotland won 21-17 at Murrayfield
2008: South Africa won 14 -10 at Murrayfield
2007: South Africa won 27-3 at Murrayfield
2006: South Africa won 29-15 in Port Elizabeth
2006: South Africa won 36-16 in Durban
2004: South Africa won 45-10 at Murrayfield
2003: South Africa won 28-19 in Johannesburg
2003: South Africa won 29-25 in Durban
2002: Scotland won 21-6 at Murrayfield

Prediction: Both sides have struggled to score points in recent games, with neither Scotland nor South Africa topping a cumulative total of 100 points in their last five games, so a low-scoring encounter is on the cards. The hosts looked great for periods against the All Blacks but their inability to be consistent in defence over the full 80 minutes is likely to cost them, again. South Africa by ten points

Rugby Union betting odds

The teams:

Scotland (revised): 15 Stuart Hogg, 14 Sean Lamont, 13 Nick De Luca, 12 Matt Scott, 11 Tim Visser, 10 Greig Laidlaw, 9 Mike Blair, 8 David Denton, 7 John Barclay, 6 Kelly Brown (c), 5 Jim Hamilton, 4 Richie Gray, 3 Euan Murray, 2 Ross Ford, 1 Ryan Grant.
Replacements: 16 Dougie Hall, 17 Kyle Traynor, 18 Geoff Cross, 19 Alastair Kellock, 20 Stuart McInally , 21 Henry Pyrgos, 22 Ruaridh Jackson, 23 Peter Murchie.

South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Juan de Jongh, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Francois Hougaard, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Gurthrö Steenkamp.
Replacements: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Heinke van der Merwe, 18 CJ van der Linde, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Morné Steyn, 22 Jaco Taute, 23 Lwazi Mvovo.

Date: Saturday 16 November
Venue: Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Kick-off: 14:30 GMT (16:30 SA time)
Weather: Clear skies. 7°C max.
Referee: George Clancy (Ireland)
Assistant referees: John Lacey (Ireland), Christophe Berdos (France)
Television match official: Eric Gauzins (France)

By Ross Hastie

Comments

bloemboy says...

I actually like the look of the Bok forwards, though I do still think that Alberts should start at 5 and Marcel Coetzee at 7. I also think that the other interesting aspect will be Taute replacing Kirchner at 15 at some point. Lets hope its relatively early in the game!

Posted 10:31 17th November 2012

porridge_time says...

JayStarr says...

This article is not taking the most important reason for those shock wins andthree tries scored against NZ into consideration: complacency from the opposition. So don't give TOO much credit to Scotland...

Yea right!

Posted 09:20 17th November 2012

BokAvenger says...

The Skirts don't stand a chance

Posted 05:56 17th November 2012

jmanngod says...

Scotland to sneak a win here. Boks aren't convincing, Referee is Irish and the forward packs will cancel each other. After that Scotland run the ball a well of not better than the Bok.. big upset in store!

Posted 20:49 16th November 2012

atg77 says...

As a Scotland fan I'm a bit worried about this, but not for the reasons one might initially think. I'm concerned our guys will have got abit carried away with those 3 tries against NZ and think that all we need to do is tighten up the defence a bit to and the Boks will fall like dominoes. South Africa certainly don't possess the same threat to Scotland's poor wide defence, but this will be far from an easy game. Having said that, this is a much much better team than SA faced two years ago, with the likes of Visser, Gray, Hogg, Denton and Laidlaw offering alot more variety in attack. Even if the Boks do play well, I think Scotland will win this one if they turn up to the party. Come on Scotland!!!

Posted 19:34 16th November 2012

melkdave says...

Personnally i tyhink PR has its prediction the wrong way round,it should say Scotland by 10.Im not underestimating the bokke from last week or over playing Scotlands performance last week.The Bokke will play better this weekend,,after all they couldnt play much worse could they..Scotland though will also be better ,and play their usual good defence on top of their burgioning attacking prowess.I feel they where partly beaten last weekend before they even went on pitch.A massive inferiorioty complex surronding the ABs i feel still prevades the scottish team.That thankfully just isnt there concerning the bokke or anyone else.and Scotland will really come out fired up to show they are better than that scorline suggests,after all 50+ points on you isnt nice at anytime.,

Posted 13:42 16th November 2012

philipjfry says...

@JayStarr: Apart from the 'daylight' issue which was clear for all to see (thank you) I thought, after the second viewing, that Barnes acquitted himself pretty well. I don't think he had much to do with the pace of the game; if anything he tried to speed it up. I blame Pienaar.

Posted 13:33 16th November 2012

leebok says...

Bok forwards need to play much better compared to last week if they want to dominate. And I would liked to see Taute at 15

Posted 13:28 16th November 2012

TVaddict says...

Scotland seem to always get one great result with these Autumn tours. I don't think teams travel to them with much respect, but Scotland have a great pack which allows them to compete well with almost anyone. My money is on Scotland, especially if it rains.

Posted 12:15 16th November 2012

JayStarr says...

I would also like to point out - do not underestimate the role Wayne Barnes played in last week's poor game...

I watched the replay and highlights this week, and it was a SHOCKING performance by Barnes - against both sides. In the first half mainly against the Boks, then mainly against Ireland in the 2nd half. Maybe somebody had a word with him at half time and told him he's been screwing up against the Boks, so then he started being harsh against Ireland... (a bit like Stuart Dickinson used to do)...

The one law which he practically completely ignored in that game was that the tackler must release (show daylight to) the tackled player before competing for the ball. HOW wrong he was with this can only be appreciated if you watch the game again... But if you do, you might realise why that game never got going.

I rate Clancy higher than Barnes, so hopefully that will be reflected in the quality of this weekend's game.

Posted 11:59 16th November 2012

zambokke says...

I just hope that he weather is better than 2010 - really heavy rain and strong wind, the weather was a leveller. I also hope that our forwards will commit to the breakdown as the Scots are so good on the ground and at the breakdown - although they struggled against ABs. I feel that contrary to what Denton said, at some point our forward power will titre and overwhelm them - they will need their subs. As for the backs, we are good enough to defend well and take the opportunity when it arises. It could be a good time for JDV the intercept king? Also, I have no worries re De Jongh's size - him and JDV do so well for The Stormers versus Nonu etc. Good luck. Go Boks.

Posted 11:58 16th November 2012

philipjfry says...

Too close to call, I'm off to the GP to pick up my Valium prescription. That and the bottle of KWV 10 year I plan on drinking should (hopefully) deal with my anxiety.

Posted 11:50 16th November 2012

JayStarr says...

This article is not taking the most important reason for those shock wins and three tries scored against NZ into consideration: complacency from the opposition. So don't give TOO much credit to Scotland...

The last time SA played (and lost) to Scotland they already had two good wins under their belt against Ireland and Wales and were on their way to getting a Grand Slam if only they could beat England in their last game... And that is exactly why they failed - they didn't even think about Scotland. So when they faced a fired-up Scotland at a wet Murrayfield, they got an unpleasant surprise. Even while trailing in that game did they not think for a moment that they would lose it... So when they finally realised "hey...", it was too late. That is uber-complacency for you. Australia made a similar mistake down under recently...

So that is what really happened. Scotland is not as much "giant killers" as a deceivingly high hurdle.

For this game, if the rain stays away, the Boks will win relatively comfortably. After their performance against Ireland, there will be no complancy from them on Saturday. The replacements of Steenkamp and De Jongh will also definitely improve the team from last week, and De Jongh's inclusion also creates a more balanced backline who has experience of playing together. If the forwards can shake off their rust and come to the party, Lambie will have better ball to work with and he will get that talented backline ticking eventually.

Ironically, Scotland might be the ones who will suffer from complacency this week. They seem to think their last win against the full-strength side and scoring three tries against NZ means they can win against the "Slow"boks - if only they make their tackles... Ha. They'll be reminded of what a real Springbok test is like this Saturday. They've got their undivided attention this time.

Posted 11:45 16th November 2012

ArmchairGeneral says...

If you look at the tries ABs conjured up to shred Scotland. The Boks can not do that. Even with ABs Scotland were evens after half an hour. If Scotland can sit back and defend against ABs and get the odd intercept try they can do it vs Boks and win. Boks are also very predictable and Scotland worked out how to pick their locks. when a team works out how to beat the boks they usually string a few wins together. A Scotland win and it could be a comfortable one.

Posted 11:36 16th November 2012

carpelone says...

Boks should dominate the forward game, but also the back.

I am expecting a better performance after the fiasco in Dublin.

Let's see, we never know how the team interpret the game on the day.

Posted 10:17 16th November 2012

rugby_rockstar says...

This fixture is just behind the fra v arg match in the must-see stakes. SA did not play well last week and they've been pounded for it in the press, thats bad news for Scotland. They'll be fired up and scotland are in for a backlash. However, Scotland were a joy to watch last week. just give it a lash and believe in yourselves and see what happens! :)

Posted 10:10 16th November 2012

latin says...

so scotland will 'definitely handle it'

ok lets see.............

as for the writer talking of a chronic lack of creativity. Jeepers man. maybe this team is still developing but i've seen some very flair filled bok games at edinburgh in late 1990s and early 2000s

Posted 10:03 16th November 2012

latin says...

so scotland will 'definitely handle it'

ok lets see.............

as for the writer talking of a chronic lack of creativity. Jeepers man. maybe this team is still developing but i've seen some very flair filled bok games at edinburgh in late 1990s and early 2000s

Posted 10:03 16th November 2012

ben7 says...

If its wet, Scotland will win. Just..... If its dry SA will win. Easily

Posted 09:38 16th November 2012

GCP_jones says...

I think playing Euan Murray is a mistake, the guy is way past it, the Bok scrum is the weakest aspect of their set-piece play.

I thought both Geoff Cross and Ryan Grant were excellent against the All Blacks both in the set-piece and with ball in hand.

I think the Scots have a chance, the bok fans shouldn't read too much out of last weeks victory, Ireland are so poor at the moment.

Scotland to sneak it.

Posted 09:25 16th November 2012

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