Planet Rugby

Preview: England v Australia

15th November 2012 20:10

SKY_MOBILE Chris Ashton England try v Australia 2010

Strike weapon: Chris Ashton

On the back of contrasting results this past weekend, England and Australia are once again ready to collide at Twickenham Stadium on Saturday.

Last week England, while not great, put 54 points on Fiji while Australia fell to an in-form France XV that was in no mood to lose the physical battle.

The Wallabies have subsequently received a hammering in more ways than one after being outplayed, out-hungered and out-muscled.

The aftermath has been brutal, but in our eyes not enough praise has been put at the door of France. They were exceptional at their set-piece, direct and intelligent in attack and utilised the Stade de France atmosphere to the best of their advantage. Few teams would have won in Paris last week.

Robbie Deans has copped most of the abuse from all angles over the past year as Quade Cooper, Alan Jones, Stirling Mortlock and most recently David Campese launched a tirade at the New Zealander, with the former Wallaby wing saying that Deans "has destroyed Australian rugby and I want him to go". Unfortunately for you David there's unlikely to be a tweak forthcoming due to the fast approaching 2013 British & Irish Lions visit to your homeland.

Warren Gatland must be licking his lips at the ongoing soap opera but also wary that the likelihood is that things will have improved by the time the Lions return from their four-year hibernation. Factor in that star players James O'Connor, David Pocock, James Horwill, Will Genia et al should have fully recovered from their respective injuries, and English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish tourists will not be facing the same limping Wallabies we see today.

Speaking of today and because of suspensions to Rob Simmons and Adam Thomson, there has been little spice between the two sides in the build-up for Saturday. Only a weak comment from Australia wing Digby Ioane about England's finishers being "pretty" has scratched the surface while Toby Flood joined in the fun by giving a glowing reference to the women of Wigan. It seems the Australian press prefers bashing its own side nowadays.

If things go to the English plan - combining a strong scrummage with the dual playmaking combination of Flood and Alex Goode to create the points - the hacks Down Under will have more energy in their fingers on Sunday morning (their time). One can't help but feel though that with last week's weakest link, Sekope Kepu, benched for the returning Ben Alexander while the sizeable Sitaleki Timani locks in following an injury, they will be more sturdy.

Consequently, if there's greater parity up front than many are predicting more emphasis will then be placed on Goode's ability to create in the first line of attack and also whether Chris Ashton and Manu Tuilagi can feed off each other wider out. Both teams lack in the creativity department in the centres and that has been a big concern for Australia since Matt Giteau moved on, with Ben Tapuai the latest to wear the 12 jersey under Deans. What is surprising is the decision on paper to name Nick Cummins and Ioane on opposite wings to where they play for the Force and Reds, while Berrick Barnes (usually 10/12) returns at full-back, a spot he recently vacated for fly-half or centre Mike Harris. It truly is needs must right now.

But Australia are not without hope of claiming victory at Twickenham this weekend - far from it in fact. While the English did win comfortably against the islanders, signs of rustiness due to their lack of recent action was noticeable. Now the looming question is whether the home side's gameplan kicks on to better things this week? For Australia it's more asking can they bury their Paris loss and repeat the effort that almost defeated New Zealand in Brisbane?

Ones to watch:

For England: Last weekend's performance from Alex Goode was top notch and he will again line up at full-back at Twickenham. This time though he will have a new wing to form a combination with as Chris Ashton returns from his suspension to join Charlie Sharples in England's back-three. Ashton has been working on his defence in the international camp and therefore his progress will be closely monitored, not least by the coaches but also armchair fans. Elsewhere and of course Dan Cole will be watched at scrum-time while Danny Care will hope to win his battle with Nick Phipps, which we expect him to do.

For Australia: Sekope Kepu endured a nightmare evening in Paris and has been replaced by Ben Alexander, who is back in the squad after recovering from a wrist injury. He must stand up for Australia and it is worth noting he was solid at the set-piece during the recent Rugby Championship. Therefore England might not enjoy the same dominant success as Les Bleus did while the return of Sitaleki Timani may also shore things up for Robbie Deans. Digby Ioane is a player who is not shy of an error or two so if England can get amongst the wing - using kicks in behind - the Wallabies could be in trouble. Key to their hopes will be trio Michael Hooper, Wycliff Palu and Kurtley Beale leading from the front.

Head-to-head: Bandwagons are rarely as full as when scrums are discussed ahead of England v Australia. We jump aboard as it can't be ignored and won't be by the front-rows.

Recent results:

2010: England won 35-18 in London
2010: England won 21-20 in Sydney
2010: Australia won 27-17 in Perth
2009: Australia won 18-9 in London
2008: Australia won 28-14 in London
2007: England won 12-10 in Marseille (RWC)
2006: Australia won 43-18 in Melbourne
2006: Australia won 34-3 in Sydney
2005: England won 26-16 in London
2004: Australia won 21-19 in London
2004: Australia won 51-15 in Brisbane

Prediction: Australia are given a 6, 7 or 8 point handicap with the bookmakers and I feel that is spot on. England to sneak this by 7 points in a game that may be short on tries scored.

Rugby Union betting odds

The teams:

England: 15 Alex Goode, 14 Chris Ashton, 13 Manu Tuilagi, 12 Brad Barritt, 11 Charlie Sharples, 10 Toby Flood, 9 Danny Care, 8 Thomas Waldrom, 7 Chris Robshaw (c), 6 Tom Johnson, 5 Geoff Parling, 4 Tom Palmer, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Tom Youngs, 1 Joe Marler.
Replacements: 16 David Paice, 17 David Wilson, 18 Mako Vunipola, 19 Joe Launchbury, 20 Tom Wood, 21 Ben Youngs, 22 Owen Farrell, 23 Mike Brown.

Australia: 15 Berrick Barnes, 14 Digby Ioane, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Ben Tapuai, 11 Nick Cummins, 10 Kurtley Beale, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Wycliff Palu, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Dave Dennis, 5 Nathan Sharpe (captain), 4 Sitaleki Timani, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Tatafu Polota Nau, 1 Benn Robinson.
Replacements: 16 Stephen Moore, 17 James Slipper, 18 Sekope Kepu, 19 Radike Samo, 20 Liam Gill, 21 Brett Sheehan, 22 Mike Harris, 23 Drew Mitchell.

Date: Saturday, November 17
Kick-off: 14:30
Venue: Twickenham
Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Assistant referees: Nigel Owens (Wales), Mathieu Raynal (France)
Television match official: Jim Yuille (Scotland)

By Adam Kyriacou
@PlanetRugbyAK

Comments

rugbylover says...

@nzmaoriboy

I should add - I think the Ozzies will pull it off today, though I hope not ..........I'm on my way now...........

Posted 13:40 17th November 2012

rugbylover says...

@nzmaoriboy

Its not just their success rate [phenomenal as you say] but the manner in which they play. William Webb-Ellis would be delighted. I love to watch them - even when they are thrashing England. What a team - & have been for years. I'm glad they got that RWC monkey off their back.

I shall be at Twickenham - enjoying the rugby.

Posted 13:36 17th November 2012

new_j4a says...

@all, I MUST be screwing up the calculation???? Is it true that Oz slides to irb rank 5 and France and England move into 3 and 4 if Oz lose today????? Surely not

Posted 10:32 17th November 2012

Andy1000 says...

Aussies by 10. With Ben Alexander back the scrum won't wobble like it did against the French.

Posted 09:51 17th November 2012

rolf says...

No Quade, no O Connor, no Genia - Oz is going through hard times.

But they'll come back one day.

Probably not to-day, though.

Posted 09:48 17th November 2012

jonesy2 says...

obviously couldnt take this preview seriously due to that photo and caption, or was that just for giggles? because i certainly found it funny

if australia lose to this amateur side then deans will have to go, in fact he has to go anyway, i was always backing him but now i have to admit he is destroying australian rugby every way he possibly can. england are about as talented as a townsville club side and the names on that sheet about as big. even though this is a 3rd or 4th string wallabies side i still expect them to win

Posted 08:55 17th November 2012

headhunter99 says...

Been watching the Autumns from the far east this time and a lot of the Aussies out here are confident that their scrum will hold up this time and not be refereed out of it like some of them thought last week !!! Personally with Roman (I like ze scrum) Pointe in the middle I think they will struggle.

I think it will be close and would hope England by 7-10 points but we all know there is nothing more dangerous than an a wounded Wallaby team... looking forward to it

Posted 07:10 17th November 2012

Tha_mai says...

TheTruthHurts - it is international rugby, just as in the past the Qantas Wallabies have beaten weakened sides, it happens.

Maybe the Qantas Wallabies do not have a best team. Horwill, Genia (who was looking bored an less than enthusiastic in Super rugby anyway) are missed, but who really is the #1 team? Why travel with semi-fit players 'hoping' they'll recover? Pocock?

The IRB preview says Australia has 547 test caps for this match's starting XV, v 242 for England. Teams change.

The 'other team' made 11 changes to play Scotland, then 14 more to play Italy tonight. Squad management.

Posted 06:51 17th November 2012

Fatflanker says...

The Wallabies are a better team than last week suggests and their first choice scrum yet more so. They have a stronger team on the pitch for this one and they are coming with a hell of a point to prove. I fearlessly predict a big win to Oz.

Posted 05:43 17th November 2012

Lucasrg says...

Danny Care will make Phipps look like an amateur. I can't belive Australia keep fielding this 9, nothing against him, he's just not enough for Test Rugby.

England by 12

Posted 20:15 16th November 2012

nzmaoriboy says...

@rugbylover :Bold statement could even be bang on! I read a lot..and if i had a dollar for every-time an UK sport writer or fan has predicted a win on our end of year tour I would be a rich man. 2002 i think was the last win England had(we had 8 debutantes that day), actually that is the last time a northern team had beaten the AB's during the Autumn test window. No bragging just a fact. I have a chuckle we people say our team is OK..I reckon if any northern team had a ten year win% of 87% you would be the greatest?? France has the 10 year record at 64% wins by the way. Cheers

Posted 19:02 16th November 2012

Rosbif says...

@froggy73, I don't really know. I guess you may well be right? I was thinking that Eng are playing 3 teams above them in the rankings, so potentially have points to pick up if they win. Meanwhile, Fra are playing 2 teams below them, so have more to lose, so to speak, if they lose, and not much to win, if they win. But I'm not going to pretend I follow the algorithm closely. The rugby itself is hard enough to predict!! Fingers crossed for tomorrow night.....

@justice. hehehe, I shall consider myself duly chastised. In my (admittedly weak) defence, there was an intention of pantomime about my comment..... oooooooo, he's behiiiiiiiiind you....etc. But you are right. Some cans, like wine, best left unopened :-)

Posted 16:57 16th November 2012

TheTruthHurts says...

@ JRHartley says: "If this was the other way around and England were missing players Australia would ensure they remembered it on the score board."

Mate I agree....you know us Aussies don't want any favours, and don't expect anything less from you guys!

Posted 16:19 16th November 2012

TheTruthHurts says...

@Tha_mai says " If they lose, no excuses, the injury stuff well worn out.."

ummm how exactly does an injury crisis suddenly disappear!? There may be a few players back here and there but gee wiz it's a revolving door at the moment give us a break!

England will win this by 9 points! sadly!

Posted 16:15 16th November 2012

Wallaroo says...

Australia may be down but not defeated, the lose to France will only serve to solidify the group. The Aussie spirit of "she'll be right" is always replaced when we in a tight spot with "never give up and never give in".

Even if we don't win, which I expect we will, we'll go down never giving up or accepting defeat as a fore given conclusion.

Aus by 3.

Posted 16:01 16th November 2012

rugbylover says...

Dear Kiwikev

Just go back and actually read what I wrote old boy. Wet dream indeed. How base.

Posted 15:12 16th November 2012

new_j4a says...

@Rosbif....Nooooo, don't open that box..."P.S. will a French ref ...."

Posted 14:50 16th November 2012

melkdave says...

Well i dont expect the wallaby scrum ,to fall apartas it did last week.But i do expect England to have the better of it.Alot is going to depend on the ref,not letting Australia drop it on their own ball ectso they dont get pushed off .I also think England are well capable of wining this match by 12-15 points.Though it wont be easy,playing Australia is never easy,espically if they are coming off a bad defeat.Australia seem to be able to raise themselves for the following match.In the past they could do that consistantly ,now they are up and down like a yo-yo.So a tense hard fought match ,with England just managing to to score points ,while Australia struggle a bit.24-10 to England final score.

Posted 13:28 16th November 2012

Tha_mai says...

"Oz never has 2 bad games"

apart from 18th and 25th August, losing 19-27 and 0-22.

One could argue the preceding games were not exactly 'good' either, bumbling wns at home over Wales by margins of 2 an1 points.

But I'll still back them tomorrow, not on the basis of any 'two bad games' myth, simply because I think this team had one to forget last week, they have a good core of players. If they lose, no excuses, the injury stuff well worn out..

Posted 13:03 16th November 2012

JamieTheProp says...

I've changed my mind - England by 8 and (if the ref is up to the job) a demolition in the scrum).

I am very excited! Might start drinking tonight and carry on through...

Posted 12:38 16th November 2012

Page 1 of 3

Character Count : 0/1900

  • International Fixtures
Forthcoming Fixtures
FixtureDetails
All times are local
International Match
Wednesday, June 19
Fiji vs USA17:10
Japan vs Canada19:10
Saturday , June 22
New Zealand vs France08:35
Scotland vs Italy14:15
South Africa vs Samoa17:15
Sunday , June 23
Fiji vs Tonga12:10
Japan vs USA14:10
More International Match fixtures
  • International Results
Recent Results
FixtureDetails
All times are local
International Match
Sunday , June 16
Canada 14 - 40 IrelandCanada vs Ireland Report
Saturday , June 15
Japan 23 - 8 WalesJapan vs Wales Report
New Zealand 30 - 0 FranceNew Zealand vs France Report
Samoa 39 - 10 ItalySamoa vs Italy Report
Argentina 26 - 51 EnglandArgentina vs England Report
South Africa 30 - 17 ScotlandSouth Africa vs Scotland Report
Friday , June 14
USA 9 - 18 TongaUSA vs Tonga Report
Sunday , June 9
USA 12 - 15 IrelandUSA vs Ireland Report
Saturday , June 8
USA 12 - 15 Ireland
Japan 18 - 22 WalesJapan vs Wales Report
More International Match results