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Preview: France v Argentina

16th November 2012 07:43

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After two great victories last weekend, France and Argentina will face off in Lille in the latest episode of their passionate rivalry.

Victory for les Bleus lifted them into the top four of the IRB World Rankings, that crucial position that guarantees they will not have to face Australia, South Africa or New Zealand in the group stages of the World Cup in 2015.

That being said, if they perform to the same level as last Saturday in the Stade de France, then they could take down any side.

Fielding a side that was a blend of returning faces - Frederic Michalak and Yannick Nyanga - and new caps in Yannick Forestier and Jocelino Suta, France were outstanding at the scrum and breakdown against the Wallabies.

Michalak's return showcased the former Sharks and Toulouse fly-half at the height of his powers. Excellent with the boot, his passes were consistently accurate and he controlled the game surprisingly well considering he has spent the majority of this season playing at scrum-half for club side Toulon.

The power France showed in Paris at the contact area must be re-harnessed and then imposed on a strong Argentinian pack if victory is to be theirs.

That is, if their defence can handle the Pumas. Widely marked down as underdogs for their clash with Wales last weekend in Cardiff, Argentina put in a phenomenal performance.

With their set-piece running smoothly, they consistently produced dangerous attacks from a solid platform, giving Wales a whole host of problems. Playing in the Rugby Championship has clearly made them sharper - the offloading in the build-up to Juan Imhoff's try would have made the All Blacks proud.

Coping with the loss of the inspirational Felipe Contepomi, the two brilliant finishes from Imhoff and Gonzalo Camacho set the Pumas apart from their hosts. Nicolas Sanchez was decisive in the fly-half spot, smartly taking his drop goals when the opportunities presented themselves. This felt like a new, improved Argentina and heading to Lille, confidence will be on a high.

Clean possession will ultimately win the match and that is where, apart from his leadership, France will really miss Thierry Dusautoir. Wales struggled to get a lot of change off Argentina at the breakdown and Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe and Juan Manuel Leguizamon were both phenomenal at securing possession and turning over the ball.

A lot will hinge on the scrummaging battle between the world-class Nicolas Mas and Marcos Ayerza on one side, and the inexperienced Forestier and rising star Juan Figallo on the other.

Argentina's approach of taking drop goals when possible away from home may prove decisive, given that recent fixtures between the two sides have either been especially close or blowouts.

Given the confidence in both camps after last week's success, this should be tight.

Players to watch:

For France: Unbelievably, last weekend against Australia was Yannick Nyanga's first game for France in five years. The Toulouse stalwart had been exiled since France's disappointing third-place playoff defeat to Argentina back in the 2007 Rugby World Cup, not winning a single cap during the Marc Lièvremont era. He was excellent on his return against the Wallabies, eager to prove he belonged and admirably filling the boots of club team-mate Dusautoir. Elsewhere, wrecking ball Louis Picamoles caused chaos for Australia last weekend, so expect the same again.

For Argentina: The talisman. Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe made the Millennium Stadium pitch feel small last weekend, popping up everywhere. His offload for Imhoff's try was sensational, accompanying his usual impressive tackle count and presence at the breakdown. An adopted son of France plying his trade in Toulon, Fernandez Lobbe will relish the chance to pick up a victory over his club team-mates. Elsewhere, Marcelo Bosch comes in at inside centre to replace the injured Contepomi, looking to back up his impressive outings in The Rugby Championship.

Head-to-head: Hard to overlook the front-row battle between Nicolas Mas and Marcos Ayerza. The Frenchman, like all good props, simply gets better with age and enjoyed a destructive evening against the Wallabies last weekend in Paris. Ayerza on the other hand has been patiently biding his time behind Rodrigo Roncero, but with the great Puma now retired, Ayerza has his chance to shine. Wales debutant Aaron Jarvis proved to be an ample appetiser for the Leicester loosehead - Mas might prove difficult to swallow.

Previous results:

2012: France won 49-10 in Tucuman
2012: Argentina won 23-20 in Cordoba

2010: France won 15-9 in Montpellier
2010: Argentina won 41-13 in Buenos Aires

2008: France won 12-6 in Marseille
2007: Argentina won 34-10 in Paris
2007: Argentina won 17-12 in Paris
2006: France won 27-26 in Paris
2004: Argentina won 24-14 in Marseille
2003: Argentina won 33-32 in Buenos Aires
2003: Argentina won 10-6 in Buenos Aires

Prediction: Fast developing into one of the game's great rivalries, previous results indicate that home advantage does not necessarily guarantee a victory. When you factor in the confidence of both camps following last weekend's wins, the gap closes even further. Close games are often dictated by defensive discipline and accuracy with the boot, making that battle at the scrum essential.

France's demolition of Australia was a far cry from their fourth placed finish in last year's Six Nations. Argentina's introduction into the Rugby Championship is already showing signs of a successful return. This will be close. France by six points.

The teams:

France: 15 Brice Dulin, 14 Wesley Fofana, 13 Florian Fritz , 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 Vincent Clerc, 10 Frederic Michalak, 9 Maxime Machenaud, 8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Fulgence Ouedraogo, 6 Yannick Nyanga, 5 Yoann Maestri, 4 Pascal Papé (c), 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 Dimitri Szarzewski, 1 Yannick Forestier.
Replacements: 16 Benjamin Kayser, 17 Thomas Domingo, 18 Vincent Debaty, 19 Jocelino Suta, 20 Damien Chouly, 21 Morgan Parra, 22 Francois Trinh-Duc, 23 Yoann Huget.

Argentina: 15 Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino, 14 Horacio Agulla, 13 Gonzalo Tiesi, 12 Marcelo Bosch, 11 Juan Imhoff, 10 Nicolas Sanchez, 9 Martin Landajo, 8 Leonardo Senatore, 7 Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 6 Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe, 5 Julio Farias Cabello, 4 Manuel Carizza, 3 Juan Figallo, 2 Eusebio Guinazu, 1 Marcos Ayerza.
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Nahuel Lobo, 18 Francisco Gomez Kodela, 19 Tomas Vallejos, 20 Tomas De la Vega, 21 Tomas Cubelli, 22 Gonzalo Camacho, 23 Joaquin Tuculet.

Date: Saturday, 17 November
Venue: Stade Lille Metropole
Kick-off: 21:00 local (20:00 GMT)
Referee: Steve Walsh (Australia)
Assistant referees: Jaco Peyper (South Africa), David Changleng (Scotland)
Television match official: Carlo Damasco (Italy)

By Ben Coles

@bencoles_

Comments

irishaussie says...

argentina, just like the english, have a knack for frustrating and stopping the french from playing their game.

my prediction: France will take them seriously and win 25-15

Posted 01:51 17th November 2012

KnockOnKing says...

Let´s see what LP learned from the AB´s master class in La Plata because if

France is on form they´ll need to defend as if it was the AB´s. But like many here,

I won´t even dare predict whether it´s a tough close game - a wide open affair - or

a bad tempered brawl. Or maybe all three?

Posted 01:41 17th November 2012

JP2PUMAS says...

Once again, the french team under pressure with their whole country looking at them playing an old rival. 50 % of this match would depend on the mindset. If Argentina plays their own game, with no complications in their own half, and clean platforms for kicking and putting the french under pressure, they should get a victory. If Argentina try to play an ambitious game plan, then they will have a long night. France has been very good at breakdown lately, added to a letal cappacity for counter atack.

Posted 20:57 16th November 2012

jmanngod says...

Good ref in charge - so Frogs to score buckets of trys

Posted 20:42 16th November 2012

Lucasrg says...

This is gonna be The Game to watch this saturday. What a set-up for this game!

I'm electrified! I suspect at least 2 tries each side. Both teams are on fire so expect devastation on the pitch! Can't wait!

Posted 19:53 16th November 2012

atg77 says...

Allez les Bleu!!!

Posted 19:26 16th November 2012

new_j4a says...

If the French team really want this and show up they can win by 15+, maybe even 20....but if it's an arm wrestle and the French fail to get ahead and get their tails up, then I predict the Pumas will win it by a narrow margin...say roughly 5. Yes I know that this is a statement of the bleeding obvious, but there is little else to go on with the French...if they show up they are the equal of the All Blacks; if they don't, they are mediocre like teams ranked 2 to 8. About all you can say is that the French are unlikely to just edge it.

Posted 18:28 16th November 2012

new_j4a says...

@Toulousain, so for you I hope for beautiful champagne rugby with a lot of tries ending in a draw...

Posted 18:07 16th November 2012

Patagon says...

@Toulousain

let it be decided by a beautiful movement, or a moment of pure skill or sheer determination.

Oh yes! Above all I raise my glass to that wish too.

Posted 17:51 16th November 2012

lacroix says...

i'm not getting in an early excuse -because i think he could hurt both teams, especially when scrummaging is even more a of a critical match up- but the last few times i've watched steve walsh i've not been overly impressed...like you rosbif my fingers are crossed that he is not a talking point.

france's kicking game last week was often poor. they got away with it because australia were so poor...as you say Vonvon

Posted 16:32 16th November 2012

Rude_80 says...

Argentina never beat the All Blacks as France did, but they can beat France so I'm going with the Pumas as the beat France in France before.... watch that kid Imohff...is a bullet

Posted 16:27 16th November 2012

Toulousain says...

i will be watching this from behind the sofa. my husband is argentine. my children are half argentine. we know and love so many of the pumas players. we have literally watched them grow up in our homes, our clubs, our lives. in one way, i cannot lose tomorrow night. in another way, i cannot win. it is like a kind of civil war. we fight against our brothers. and we will cry together at the end (and share some fine wine I hope). i am so proud of both teams. i just hope everyone plays to their potential, no-one is injured, and the result does not depend on the referee or some silly mistake by one player. let it be decided by a beautiful movement, or a moment of pure skill or sheer determination.

bonne chance et bon courage a tout le monde!!

(ps. i agree mlbp, i always love reading your stuff and the others on these france pages, even if we are missing JLJ!! )

Posted 16:23 16th November 2012

TheTruthHurts says...

go Argentina!!!!!!!!

Posted 16:11 16th November 2012

Spartacus says...

is this on TV in UK? Undoubtedly the fascinating game of the weekend

Posted 16:01 16th November 2012

lacroix says...

isn't it fantastic that this argentina side are getting the respect and credit they deserve.

couldn't be happier...and nervous about the result in this game .

whilst i'm delighted to see some consistency from PSA i would like to see fofana start in the centre, huget on the wing and fritz on the bench.

Posted 14:20 16th November 2012

melkdave says...

Rivalry is right ,both teams will be apprehensive about this match,and for good reason.Should be an epic clash in the forwards ,espically the backrow.That is where i feel the natch is going to be won or lost.If Argentina can get on top even sligtly ,they will have a close victory.Whie if France just get parity they will have the clos victory,because their backs ,are more creatative .So prediction time lol no surprise France by 3-7 points .Confidant from last week,and PSA will be hammering into them about having to back it up .

Posted 14:03 16th November 2012

Patagon says...

Rosfil

That is obviously a compliment to the Pumas.... but what does it say about the world's perception of that Wallaby performance last weekend? Were France good, or were Aus just really poor?

I ask the same for thing about the other surprise result: were Pumas good, or were Welsh really poor?

My perception is somewhere in between for both. Pumas were good, patience, and quite tidy. Wales lacked cohesion, ideas and leadership. So, were the Pumas good or Wales poor? The Pumas were good but not amazing. As a fan at one point I got a bit frustrated because they seemed to run out of ideas, lost concentration and seemed everybody wanted to be a hero, not playing like a team. This only happened briefly, but it happened. Then it was half time, and came back more together. Basically my perception is that Wales had a very poor game, and Pumas had a good game, and took their chances very well.

I could say the same thing for France beating Australia. However, to me France is ALWAYS very unpredictable. Since that time in 1999 when they beat AB in a manner which was like a script for a hero movie, I see France as that sort of beast: I never know what to expect. Who will show up this time, Dr Jekyll or Mr Hyde? They always had brilliant players who can inject some magic and win great matches. Having said all this, Pumas are to France what France are to AB, their bete noire, their nemesis, and that can always play a part in a close match.

I don't dare to make a prediction .... but I looooooooove us to win!!! Vamos Pumas!!!

Posted 13:41 16th November 2012

cayzam says...

rugby_rockstar, if you want to watch the game live, check out www.vipbox.tv for free live sport broadcasts.

Posted 13:11 16th November 2012

Pumastackle says...

Juan Figallo, is the best 3 in world rugby right now. No other tighthead plays like him, he can tackle, he can run, he plays like a flanker...and he`s 24 years old. I played against him when he was younger, and was a truly number 7 disguised like a prop.

Posted 12:04 16th November 2012

Pumastackle says...

Juan Figallo, is the best 3 in world rugby right now. No other tighthead plays like him, he can tackle, he can run, he plays like a flanker...and he`s 24 years old. I played against him when he was younger, and was a truly number 7 disguised like a prop.

Posted 12:01 16th November 2012

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