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APV1 -- if poms had something to big themselves up about...at all, im sure they would try.
Posted 03:13 23rd September 2011
I expect nothing less than a Win and QC to work his magic against a Tier 2 team...
Posted 23:44 22nd September 2011
@Wallaroo please can I wish your son and your family all the best and will offer up a prayer for him and your family Arohanui.. I will wait until after the RWC to contact you and love to further our discussions.
I have seen reports that claim that Australian fans were spat on by NZers at Saturday's game and if this is so I wish to apologise on behalf of normal kiwis who are usually good hosts. Banter is banter and yes sometimes it goes too far but there is no excuse for this dispicable outrage. I am extremely proud of NZ,its people and their achievements.It just goes to show we also have a group of
citizens who can only be described as lower than the low. I dont care what excuse is suggested for this behaviour because to me no excuse justifies such behaviour. I only hope that those OZ fans do not judge all NZers as similar to these lowlifes.
Posted 08:18 22nd September 2011
@Editor I understand where you are coming from but I stay away from that forum as many posts offend me and would be injurious to my health. Also I would not like to think that something I wrote could be used to send the site bankrupt paying court judgements for printing my comments. Also being of modest means I couldnt pay the judgements made against me lol.
Posted 17:30 20th September 2011
Ramage raises an interesting point about contacting other posters. Many forum sites offer the members the option to contact other members anonymously. This would give Ramage and others (me, for example), the opportunity to contact members for other, non-rugby reasons.
It has been requested that we keep our posts rugby-related and, on the whole, I couldn't agree more. However sometimes the rugby discussions spark a debate on a tangental topic, which posters might still like to continue. For example:
Ramage would like to discuss politics with Wallaroo; I wanted some clarity regarding Moko and NZ gang-affiliation; many have expressed a desire to meet on a social level, if ever we are in the same country / area.
Is this something you are able to facilitate?
The editor says.... The PR forum (tab at the top of the page) may be a better place for you guys to discuss such topics.
Posted 14:56 20th September 2011
@ Wallaroo thanks for you explanations you have made yourself clear now and thats all I wanted, to understand before I went and said something based over a misunderstanding. I know how good the Australian people can be and nothing personified it more than in the floods of Queensland and the bushfires of Victoria. Even more so was the help our Australian brothers provided in our own tragedies at Pike Mine and Canterbury earthquakes and for that thank you very much. Also as a military man my thanks for your work in the Humanitarian Stakes you and your service personel supply in your missions.
I hope my post did not seem to leave you with the idea I was against you as sometimes the written word is harsh I merely wanted to understand what you meant. If I caused any offence I hope I can apologise as none was meant. I would like at sometime to speak to you about Australian Immigration rules which are quite baffling for a benevolent society. However you may not see this post as it is really non rugby orientated and the jibe was at me because the editor claims I do not keep to rugby matters and in this case he would be right. However our two countries are entwined and we should keep our jibes a bit more to the jocular. Unfortunately when you are with a person the eye contact often is revealing, The written word is often not the best medium for the joke. By the way the politician concerned was Pauline Hansen lol.
ps Editor Im not sure how this works and I know you dont owe me any favours lol but whilst I understand this post may not appear and in fact dont even want to see it on your site I wonder whether you could contact Wallaroo and see if he wishes to receive it in his email account. To me there are some issues I would be interested in knowing how I feel.
Posted 13:54 20th September 2011
@ Fatflanker - see the links in my previous post. I readily admit, as I stated, that these weren't directly related to the Ireland match. What's more, I actually think that we should all big up our teams and give them our support. Shout it from the rooftops - "My team are better than yours and we're going to win handsomely and send you lot packing!". Go for it!
But when we come a-cropper, we have to expect critisism and a bit of niggle.
Posted 16:39 19th September 2011
Dont get me wrong Austrlia have a very good team .But it would have been nice if the aussie press and players had showed respect for the other teams .In the prematch interviews Genia and co implied Ireland where no threat and total rubbish who shouldnt be there and Australia would stroll to the final .If thats not arrogance i dont know what is It was the same with most of the press not just one journalist Being confidant is one thing and is expected but respect is expected aswell in equal measure for your oppositon.Lesson learned i hope
Posted 16:31 19th September 2011
One clown Aussie journalist persistently talks the wallabies up after they have a win, (and then disowns them when they lose), and all Aussies get branded arrogant. On form, Oz had every right to be confident going into the Ireland game - they had achieved some sort of parity with the other top two rugby nations. Suggesting all of Oz was boasting about world beating scrums, etc is total rubbish - show me who made that claim? They, (incorrectly in retrospect) were confident the scrum would not be a major issue. By and large the international press acknowledge that the Wallabies/Deans have been gracious in defeat and have not resorted to blaming the ref, (a back-handed way of acknowledging the ref actually was a factor).
Posted 16:02 19th September 2011
@Wallaroo if you think your country is benevolent think again having lived in both OZ and the UK the UK wins hands down in the benevolent stakes .Your comment about how you are "protecting their countries, feeding and caring for them " escapes me and as one of your leading politicians once said " Please explain." Whoops is this rugby related ? Sorry editor seems im at it again joining in on a thread not rugby related lol
@melkdave some good points made in your post.
Posted 15:53 19th September 2011
@ exdigger et al
Just in case you're wondering what I was referring to, here's some examples of the Aussies biggin-up their scrummaging for you:
I appreciate these were a little while ago and not directly related to the Irish match, but I think we all agree that the Aussie scrum was mullered. Again.
Mercurial backs are one thing, but a firm tight 5 is another.
We all do it and it's to be expected. It would be rare (and peculiar) for a player or coach to suggect that their team was awful and going to get a hiding. We all know that we all big up our teams. Good! Let's get behind them.
But have the humble pie and a big spoon ready when it doesn't come off.
Posted 15:23 19th September 2011
WOW look what a defeat can do the walabies actually saying the USA is a side to be respected where was that b4 the Ireland game??.Ireland where crap according to the aussie media and a few posters here because they didnt annilate the USA now the USA are a team to respect. A pity they didnt say that b4 thier defeat against Ireland .B4 then both sides where rubbish and shouldnt even be compard to the Wallabies Who as 3N champions where destined to be he greastest team ever. Humble pie indeed when its to late and arrogance has put peoples hackels up
Posted 14:16 19th September 2011
I don't hate the Aussies, quite the opposite. And I did live there for a year - my mother has for over 30 years now. Been back a few times to visit and enjoyed my time there, but I'm happy living in England, thanks!
I think the problem is that the Aussies spend a lot of time bigging themselves up and then this happens. They're not the first and shan't be the last. But they should expect critisism when it happens.
An example might be their claims regarding their fantastic, world-beating scrummaging. Where is that now?
Posted 13:48 19th September 2011
Too right exdig...time to show these booing, spiteful kiwis the hospitality they're showing our team - into the 'also ran' queue at passport control methinks. Looking forward to seeing that all-powerful saffa scrum monster the wallabies eh - last time i looked it was the boks going backwards.
Posted 13:33 19th September 2011
@exdigger, not true, we only send our convicts there
Posted 13:19 19th September 2011
People go to live there because your economy is better and your weather is nicer. However, when it come's to the arrogance of your rugby team.... that's a completey different matter in itself. All week, the argument wasn't if Australia will beat Ireland but by how many....
Humble Pie currently en route to Australia...
Posted 12:55 19th September 2011
It's funny how everyone hates the Aussies but all you lot want to come and live here with us...
Posted 12:29 19th September 2011
Australia's in a pretty tough position. Whatever they may say, it will be turned against them.
The only thing to do is to stop speaking with their mouth and start speaking with facts. Only after beating one of the top world sides they should speak out again.
Posted 12:26 19th September 2011
Good call APV1, classic stuff.
Posted 12:25 19th September 2011
Easy to come out blazing against the 18th ranked team in the world!
Posted 11:27 19th September 2011
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