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APV1 says...

@ rockman - seen any of the other NH squads have you? Where's Toby Faletau from again..?

@ letsgoboks - excellent summation - thank you. Our media is sometimes awful and worse to its "own".

Posted 16:57 11th June 2012

letsgoboks says...

Haha rockman

There might be 53 million.. but how many of them are foreigners carrying your nation. Go for a walk in London.

Another debate I guess :D

Best players who qualify should be picked. It doesn't matter where you were born. The problem here is that the english media put so much focus on the foreign tag thats its an issue. They call their players english until they start failing and then must be booted off back to their homeland. I think Kevin Pietersen is a classic example. He scores 100 runs and he's "The English Genius!". He goes out for 2 ducks in a row and he's "The South African born Pietersen".

Posted 15:59 11th June 2012

rockman says...

@ martinmarais78. A global Village? Nonsense. 53 million people in England and they choose foreigners to play for them. Botha and Tuilagi qualify on residency grounds. Residency should not apply to any of the higher seeded nations. Catt's mother was English. Lets not forget the others, Hartley, Waldrom, Corbisiero. All qualifying on residency. Have any of the Northern Hemisphere teams ever selected someone on Residency grounds? don't think so.

Posted 14:08 11th June 2012

rugby_rockstar says...

No one likes seeing players injured but lancaster ought to have been blooding one of the harlequins centres anyway. barritt contributes nothing in attack and it was another match where we just defended and did nothing positive. Time to bring in Turner Hall or Lowe.

Posted 13:30 11th June 2012

letsgoboks says...

Unlucky Brad.

Least you get to chill now. Did anyone see Botha mumbling the SA anthem :D

Posted 12:55 11th June 2012

BokAvenger says...

The guy puts his body on the line for England and all he gets in response from you guys is abuse about the fact that he wasn't born in Blighty. Pathetic attitude.

Posted 10:35 11th June 2012

martinmarais78 says...

Rockman, guess Tuilagi, Catt and Botha should also not be there then... + 1/2 the people on mud island + all the whites in Africa, Australia, America and all the Brits throughout the world..

GET REAL MAN, its a global village out there!

Posted 06:45 11th June 2012

melkdave says...

Sorry to say ,but it might be a blessing in disguise for England ,as we arnt going to win by just having good defence.It now means we can try Tulagi at 12 and Joeseph at 13 .I would also start with Flood at 10 ,as Farral looks a little jaded to be honest,but keep him on the bench and for quck ball Dickson aswell.Apart from those changes id keep the team the same ,but tell Morgon he really has to step up now and show his ability ect going forward and tackaling.Hopefully they will have learnt alot about test rugby last weekend ,and show more attacking moves ect

Posted 00:52 11th June 2012

4rugby says...

Guess now there will only be 16 South Africans playing on the field.

Posted 23:32 10th June 2012

mana says...

welcome home Brad!...

Posted 23:32 10th June 2012

ArmchairGeneral says...

Bigger blow is Brown out of series. 15 to 9 for 2nd test:

Foden

Ashton

Joseph

Farrell

Tuilagi on wing

Flood

Youngs

Posted 22:13 10th June 2012

leebok says...

so that make sit only 16 Saffas on the pitch then.

Posted 21:53 10th June 2012

ArmchairGeneral says...

Lacerated conjunctiva. Hmm.

Posted 21:48 10th June 2012

martinmarais78 says...

He waited so long to see his relatives in Durban, now he has to wait even longer to see them again...

Posted 20:55 10th June 2012

rockman says...

He shouldn't be allowed top put on an English jersey anyway. The guy is South African. Played for South Africa right up the age grades and for the emerging Springboks, their second team. Its a joke that he's allowed to choose England after this and an outrageous stretch that his only English connection is that his parents are from Zimbabwe.

Posted 20:04 10th June 2012

jestnation says...

If you go buy how Lancaster ran the squad in the six nations and the change on Saturday you'd expect Farrell to go to 12 and bring Flood or Hodgson to 10 but I don't think that'll cut it against South Africa.

There's been a lot of talk about Joseph coming in at 13 and moving Manu to 12 but I don't think he's a smart enough player or has good enough distribution to be an inside centre. He plays best when he's got a head of steam up and no more responsibilities that to run at, over or very occasionally round his opponent.

I hope JTH and Lowe get a run in the midweek game. Jordan is a big powerful player who has spent the season playing for a team who want to stay on their feet, move the ball and spread it to the back 3. As physicality goes Manu & JTH would be pretty formidable but I think both Joseph and Lowe could play their way into the test squad.

Posted 19:04 10th June 2012

liam2me says...

1 less Saffer on the park

Posted 18:54 10th June 2012

NHsaints says...

Neither that injury or a potential one to brown is too bad, Foden can move back to 15 and Wade can come in to 11 if brown is injured and hopefully from this injury joseph will start at 13 and tuilagi will move inside to 12.

Posted 18:47 10th June 2012

jackblack says...

So how's your mother Brad?

Posted 18:35 10th June 2012

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