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suntzu says...

@powerplay As much as I do agree with reducing the number of teams (even bringing it down further than 12 and having home and away legs to make it more even); I'd like to point out that apart from the Lions all the SA teams were ranked within the 10 first teams, the last five are mainly Australian sides... (3: Rebels, WForce, Waratahs)...

The whole problem with a promotion/relegation system is that it is not suited to the franchise system, unless you simply promote the highest ranked provinces of the local championship to the international competition it's unreasonable to think that a newly promoted team could compete at the super rugby level... But I guess they should have thought about it before, and let's look at the positives, at least Lions/Souther Kings fans won't be disappointed every year... only every second year.

Posted 13:33 20th August 2012

Houston_11 says...

One thing I want to clarify regarding the Southern Kings... are they in a play-off if they finish bottom of the SA conference or do they have to finish bottom of Super 15 as well?

@Trinats... you've hit the nail on the head. Personally, I'd put QC at 10 and Berrick Barnes at 12. Probably keep Horne at 13. Without Pocock as well, it's going to be a lot harder to play the damage limitation game, especially at Eden Park.

Posted 12:48 20th August 2012

powerplay says...

The whole kings debacle is just plain embarrassing! In all honesty, why do SA and have 5 teams anyway?? Year after year, they are either last or in the bottom 3!!! Better to cut their teams down (Aus too!) and have better quality of rugby, rather than diluting the standard of play! Yeah, yeah yeah...its all about money...and politics etc, etc.. But in the end, the product (super rugby) should speak for itself, but, it is these type of teams (always at the bottom) that have consistently been a blemish on the competition! Go back to super 12!!!

Posted 12:17 20th August 2012

Trinats2 says...

Deans picked a side to defend and had Beale been able to tackle the would have done that. I can see Deans pick a carbon copy of this line up this week and try ti limit damage, instead of trying to win the game with attacking players. It's very un-Australian and he is losing support to rival codes here, which took a long time to build up.

Posted 12:02 20th August 2012

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