England: Positives to be drawn
In the final installment of a series of exclusive pieces for Planet Rugby, Phil Vickery examines how England fared in SA.
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So there it is. A five-match tour of South Africa, done and dusted.
Was it successful? That's the key question, and the answer is more down to how you measure that progression rather than anything more scoreline based.
When I wrote the first of these columns, I thought about what success would be for this tour and group of players. Three from five would have indeed been a great result, but despite every effort, England just fell short on the last hurdle. However, in terms of benchmarking and understanding where England are in terms of development, I am confident Stuart Lancaster and his backroom team will be delighted.
The players I've kept in touch with during the tour have, to a man, described it as a very harmonious and focused tour, and have all enthused about the well-known hospitality of the South African people. Only New Zealand matches SA in terms of national fervour for rugby, and I'm sure the players have learned a lot from the rugby-mad country.
South Africa have show that, despite losing a few iconic figures, they still play the most muscular of rugby. They're well drilled, organised and committed, but need to look at their control of the game and ability to play different styles of rugby. JP Pietersen, Willem Alberts and Bismark du Plessis were immense for the home side (indeed, probably the difference between the teams), but equally, Heyneke Meyer will be very concerned about the form and tactical decisioning of his half back pairing.
The game in Port Elizabeth was not a classic but England will draw huge comfort from their display, and also the performances of Joe Marler, Tom Johnson, Alex Goode and the immense Dan Cole, surely England's player of the tournament? In the final analysis, SA just had too much power in the close encounters, and also pressured England's line-out. However, when you consider England fielded a 21- year-old midfield, a 21-year-old loosehead prop, and 13 starting players under the age of 30, the portents for the future are good.
However, England competed. The spirit shown was immense and that is testimony to the back-to-basics approach of the management. Yes, at times we lacked defensive structure and were hanging on by our fingernails, but Andy Farrell's forthcoming appointment (English rugby's worst kept secret!) will assist greatly in this area.
A lot of scribes on Sunday were pretty withering about England's (and Owen Farrell's) lack of midfield spark; the truth is these guys are learning to play with each other, and once they've got the basics right and a platform of understanding, then we can look to expand our game plan and push the envelope in terms of attack- the simple message to the England fans is be patient! This is work in progress.
Looking back on the five games, I think we've learned a lot about the players that toured. Pundits and fans often make the mistake of picking the 'best Test side'. The truth of modern international rugby is that you'll rarely have your first choice side available, therefore strength in depth by position is utterly essential to remain competitive.
In the back three, we have three Test options at full-back- Mike Brown and Foden we already knew about, but Alex Goode was the surprise package with a mature and probing test start in PE. Maybe we're a winger short of Test level, but Johnny May's blistering display in Potchefstroom showed plenty of promise for the future.
In the midfield, it was great to see the emerging talents of Jonathan Joseph and the prospect of Manu Tuilagi and JJ playing together is mouth-watering. Flood and Farrell will continue to joust for the 10 shirt but Toby Flood has now failed to complete 12 out of the last 14 Tests through injury and that's a huge concern. George Ford, confined to the gym for this summer, will also be in with a shout, and rightly so. I see him as the future of English rugby in the ten shirt.
At scrum-half, we're blessed with two world class 9's (Danny Care and Ben Youngs) and a useful back up in Lee Dickson, so no issue there. None either, in the propping department, where we now have at least four international standard props with Dan Cole emerging as the best tighthead in world rugby right now, not only for his robust scrummaging, but his immense tackle and jackal rate.
Lock remains a problem area, and we are yet to find the right blend of punch, power and athleticism, although Geoff Paling's work rate was stoical at times. Courtney Lawes will provide a welcome option if he can retain fitness, and I expect David Attwood to also challenge the incumbents.
In the back row, we need to consider that two of our best were not available due to injury. I've talked a lot about line-out options in the loose forwards and the two Tom's, Wood and Croft, will make a huge difference in this area, fighting for the 6 shirt, whilst Robshaw has made the 7 his own. There is an argument, with the lack of a long term answer at 8, to switch the skipper there, and play both Wood and Croft, but we'll see, although Thomas Waldrom, an unlikely looking back-rower, added a lot of gain-line momentum whenever he played. Tom Johnson's technical play and work rate were outstanding at times and Carl Fearns made a big claim for his future in the midweek matches. With the ever-physical James Haskell also now available, and a natural option as an impact player across all three back row positions, Lancaster will be forced to select, rather than pick, from the personnel available.
Looking forward, I truly believe England have both the players and the momentum to make a great showing in the Autumn Tests. We've come close to matching the most physical side in the world and we've blooded some real young talent. Others, like Cole, Care and Marler have proven their claims as Test starters and perhaps a couple of others have learned that they have a lot of work to do in order to perform at the required standard. Once we've added a little more organisation and attacking intent, we'll be there or thereabouts.
So there we have it; that's pretty much it. I would like to thank all at Planet Rugby for having me and say I've thoroughly enjoyed writing these columns and also reading your opinions on my thoughts.
I'll close by asking you to spare a thought for me this weekend as I tackle the 4 Peaks Challenge (the highest peak of each of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales in 48 hours!) for the Wooden Spoon Charity. I was rather looking forward to a gentle stroll until I learned that my partner for the Challenge was none other than Maggie 'The Machine' Alphonsi, the outstanding player in the world in Woman's Rugby, and just about one of the fittest and most competitive people I know! So it looks like I'll have to up my game in order not to be embarrassed by the lovely Maggie! Bring it on!
Until next time,
Vicks.
Phil Vickery MBE won 73 Test caps for England and five for the British and Irish Lions. He was part of England's 2003 World Cup-winning team and captained the side to the World Cup Final in 2007.








Comments
APV1 says...
I'm going to keep harassing the threads until they pay up. Firstly one shouldn't make such statements if you're not willing to put your money where your mouth is.
Then there's the matter of doing a (very worthwhile) charity out of promised funds. Added to which, another poster and I have agreed to match the £10 pledge once it's been paid, so gazzabok is potentially doing them out of even more, based on a flippant comment.
I have no doubt that gazzabok can afford to spare £10 and I'd like to know that they've paid up.
Ed - can you help track down the elusive gazzabok, as I've not seen any posts from them since their pledge? Thanks!
Posted 10:05 27th June 2012
benski says...
Well done APV1 I remember the post but couldn't remember where he'd put it.
Posted 21:02 26th June 2012
APV1 says...
Anyone seen any posts from gazzabok recently? I'd like to know if he's paid up, or whether he's a charity-cheating scumbag...
"gazzabok says...
The English are delusional. That was't a competition once the Boks settled into the game.
Boks will win by 20+ tomorrow. If not, note this comment and I will donate 10 quid to Wooden Spoon.
Posted 13:12 15th June 2012"
Posted 15:34 26th June 2012
sandal says...
""... the truth is these guys are learning to play with each other, and once they've got the basics right and a platform of understanding, then we can look to expand our game plan and push the envelope in terms of attack- the simple message to the England fans is be patient! This is work in progress.""
Sure, this is an inexperienced England team across the park, but I feel Vickery is drawing on an old, old excuse. No England team I can think of in the past 40 years would have had the ambition of the All Blacks' first 20 minutes in Hamilton. Any that might have been capable of it would, anyway, have spent that first 20 minutes breaking Ireland down. "Then we can start to move the ball."
It is worth noting that the following combinations at Hamilton on Saturday hadn't, far as I know, played before: Weepu - Barrett; Barrett - Williams; Williams - Ellis. That is four backs in a row, from scrum half to outside centre. I know, that was a different back combination to that of the first 20 minutes, but the point still stands.
Posted 08:10 26th June 2012
Paint_it_Black says...
All very well bench marking Mr Vickery but you need to remember that SA's will be moving on as well. Well, if they know what is good for them. This up and under game is so 2007 (yawn).
Posted 06:26 26th June 2012
Headhunter99 says...
@melkdave - couldn't agree more S.Armitage is right up with the best 7's at the moment but we need him in an England shirt to be sure.
Great article by Vicks, you can see the players really starting to gel together. Looking forward to next seasons 6 Nations already and the autumn internationals.
Posted 18:47 25th June 2012
benski says...
Great articles Phil, I have enjoyed reading them. As an Englishman living in South Africa I have a good sense of the true feeling in both camps and I think you have summed up the spirit well. All the best for the 4 Peaks and as fozza has suggested, keep a steady eye on what is in front of you and you'll be fine!
Posted 17:36 25th June 2012
quietbrit says...
There are three areas where England need more not mentioned:
Who is the backup tighthead?
What about Hooker?
Crash Ball carriers 3 and 4? Manu is good, so is Waldrom but we need at least 1 more of their stature to make space and holes for the rest to exploit. We are too predictable and pace needs grunt to double up tacklers and create space.
Posted 13:50 25th June 2012
loosehead79 says...
What about Corbs? He didn't get much game time in this tour but when he's on the pitch he bests his opposite number every time. Look at the six nations, he had the french and Italians (the two other most competitive front rows) under a lot of pressure and demolished the Irish front row. In SA when he came on the boks scrum crumbled and no one seems to be giving him the credit he deserves. Other than that good insight from PV. Well done
Posted 13:27 25th June 2012
fozza says...
Enjoyed these columns though speaking as an Englishman I would've liked to have a counter column from a similar placed Saffa (John Smit can't be too busy!?). On the series itself, we english must be careful. As Mr Vickery so eloquently puts it, there were positives to take from the tour but we were clearly second best to a very physical Boks side.
It wasn't all doom and gloom but we're a long way off being world beaters. The youth of the squad bodes well but injury very rarely allows you to keep the same side for a long period of time (just ask Courtney Lawes, Tom Croft, Tom Woods, David Strettle and Toby Flood).
Mr Vickery all the best with the walks and if I may suggest: walking behind Maggie Alophonsi may provide any red blooded male with some pretty good motivation!!!
Posted 12:53 25th June 2012
melkdave says...
Again a good article ,that just about sums up the english suppoters thoughts ,but how could he forget S.Armitage as an option at 7 ,his just about the best 7 in the NH atm,and imo equal to Pocock, in the breakdown ,but a better ball carrier so even more of a headache for SL and co there .The new policy of taking an extended tour party ,i think is the correct one I would have liked the midweek matches to have been against S15 players myself ,but hey its SAs tour aswell ,and im sure they found some future S15s players ect ,but id hate for the Saxons to fade because of it.Maybe they could do their own tour with those players not in the extended EPS ,but hold promise like E.Daly who are now to old for the U20s,or play in the IRB Nations Cup.For Saxons head coach well imo no one better than B.Ashton,he will teach them to play heads up ,and be able to improvise ,which i feel would benifit the young players no end.All in all a very good tour for England ,and so nearly an outstanding one.For SA they also benifited hugely aswell ,and imo can only get better ,as they learned quite a few players arnt up to the job atm,and when done right the power game is still effective ,i fee lthey need variation though .but not the kicking game of the Bulls / /Bokkes of 07 .To easy to counter these days imho.So heres looking forward to the RC and aurtumn matches
Posted 12:40 25th June 2012
Egdar says...
Great to read your blogs Phil. England are suffering from kickitus. Care/ Youngs box kick so often it becomes predictable, and Farrell's instinct is to kick (often badly). He's just not quick minded or confident enough in attack. Kicking the way we do is losing posession and setting up lethal runners such as Habbana/ Pietersen, really dumb rugby, and very annoying! I think you're right about Ford - a great attacking instinct and pretty quick too - something England haven't had since Cipriani (who still can't tackle). Cheers!
Posted 12:31 25th June 2012
astrospange says...
I wonder if Stuart Barnes and his side kick MH talks about England with as much pride as Phil Vickery does?
Posted 12:02 25th June 2012
TVaddict says...
Very well summarised. I would only add that I was really impressed by Foden this tour. He has such a complete skill set and was able to switch between wing and fullback so gracefully.
Posted 11:24 25th June 2012