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@ruckingkiwi.. just bc YOU didnt see ritchie and the boys make a donation doesnt mean they didnt you nob!.. my point is that sonny felt the need to publicly announce his, where as most humble and selfless people did so anonymously bc after all it wasnt about ritchie or the boys, or sbw for that matter, it was about the city of Chch!!
Posted 06:21 11th July 2012
Kiwiingermany, not everyone sees their legacy in the black jersey and I'm not sure why people like yourself feel Sonny should adhere to this "tradition" thing, bit rich when I assume you're living abroad making the most of your opportunities?
Having returned to NZ for the World Cup and beyond, it was clear to see the positive contribution Sonny had made on rugby, rugby is an oversaturated market and is stale here but people were interested in watching to see what he might do, the NZRU didn't underestimate the influence he had on the public here, just a pity they couldnt afford him. Even old mates who'd played for years, including professional, had an eye on the TV again, actually I dont know anyone involved in rugby at any level who didn't rate the guy, seems it's just the couch critics who have a negative opinion.
Posted 20:29 10th July 2012
kitch, who said "LOOK AT ME", except you.. and now me.. Sonny certainly didn't! I haven't seen Richie and the boys down there donating 100K each and they've made their careers and fortune in that city, Sonny was there for a year and owed the place nothing.
Euskadi, agree 100%. Some people need to wake up and realise that the world offers more opportunities than a black jersey and NZ. Good on Sonny for having goals and having the balls to go out and achieve them. Maybe kitch and his mates can learn a thing or two.
Posted 12:17 10th July 2012
@ Euskadi, how stupid can one be? New Zealand and All Black rugby are something special in the world of sport. Carter and McCaw AND many others have recognised that and have made their contribution to well over a hundred years of tradition. Williams never has and never will. He did nothing for New Zealand or All Black rugby. Just filled the papers because those who write like any sort of sensation they can find. The honest worker gets less attention. I say: goodbye and good riddance. We have better second five eigths and better centres. I hope the papers will talk more about them in the future-
Posted 11:43 10th July 2012
Good on him an good luck
Your body only lasts so long so if that is your source of income then make the most of it while your fit. Smart business man and smart manager.
He has done his job and owes the public nothing.
Setting up a good life for he and his family.
Posted 07:28 10th July 2012
Maybe the Allbalcks can learn from the americans regarding superstars. You must pay your players well so that they never leave and hold them to a contract.
Posted 06:44 10th July 2012
ArmchairGeneral, the Japan move is only daft if you consider experiencing something new and unfamiliar, out of your comfort zone, meeting new people, trying new things, being away from your Mum, as being daft. I would never criticise someone for having goals, taking on challenges, getting out of the comfort zone and experiencing all that life could offer. Maybe Sonny's dream isn't the same as everyone elses dream, I dont understand why everyone thinks they know what's best for him.
Posted 01:31 10th July 2012
"If I ever came back to NZ rugby I'd definitely come back to the Chiefs. Even if there was no money here I'd come back for free"
HAHAHAHA - I reckon he will come back to NZ before 2015 RWC but would love to see what he did if Chiefs offered him no money. I can't fault him on the decision to leave and it comes to no one as a surpise, but he obviously seeks money and glory so why not just be honest about it?? I would have more respect for him if he said something like "I want to reach the top of several sports and get rich while I can - I will be back for the RWC and looking forward to working for whoever can pay enough for my grandkids to not have to work" - seriously, I would respect that more than saying its about enjoyment and loyalty and not about money.
Posted 00:06 10th July 2012
I don't think it's about the money for SBW, if it was he would not have been playing in NZ for the last couple of years. I think he is trying to become an honourable person by fulfilling a pledge he had made some years back. The AB coaches have nothing but praise for the guy.
Remember also, that Thorn came from league to union, back to league and then back to union again. SBW I think will do the same.
Posted 23:32 09th July 2012
I dont think this man has put a foot wrong. People going on about him being just about the money need a reality check. He said it himself if it was all about the money then he'd have stayed in Toulon
I really admire the path he has chosen since his off field hiccups in the NRL and the manner in which he left the Dogs. Having said that I think he realised too late that he'd signed a bogus deal with the Dogs. Sure he got done for DUI, the Dogs left him out to dry, fed him a script to spiel off to the media and got on with making their money off his talent. Some sound advice from his management team opened this (then) naive mans eyes to his real value and potential and now he is using that to his advantage
OK so he walked out on the Dogs, what was his other choice? Play the next five years there and lose not only his best earning years playing in a limited exposure sport or walk out, earn better money, travel the world, experience other cultures and lifestyles, meet new people, take up another sport, play ITM cup, play Super Rugby, become an All Black, win a World Cup, become NZs heavy weight boxing champ, with the potential this year to add a Super Rugby trophy to that. Now he's off to live in Japan, earn ridiculous (by rugby standards) money, experience a new culture and then return to league to light that sport up
Comparisons to Carter, McCaw etc about commitment to NZ rugby etc are short sighted, for all of their international sporting talent thats all they have...rugby talent, neither could play league for the Kiwis and I doubt they could KO a heavy weight boxer either. Carter and McCaw top up their coffers in more conventional ways but are in it for the money as well, sabaticals, marketing and promotions its a different means to the same financial ends, SBW does it noisier and with greater outcomes
Go well SBW by all accounts you're a great guy, come back soon
Posted 22:50 09th July 2012
@ruckingkiwi..yes great gesture for chch but plenty of others gave just as much and more yet they didnt feel the need to say "LOOK AT ME"
Posted 19:38 09th July 2012
good luck to him...personally, I would like to see him be a success at a single code - be that league or union...danger is that he will be remembered as a high profile player who bounced between codes as opposed for his contribution on the pitch...
Posted 17:28 09th July 2012
A big blow to the All Blacks, he was really starting to develop as a union player as seen with the cheifs and most recently against the Irish. You can't fault the guy, he's honoured his contract and not wants to experience something new. Stuck in a small town like Hamilton in the prime of your life can't be much fun, I have to admit. I don't think money is everything to him. As another poster mentioned he donated 100,000 dollars to charity... are these the actions of a such a person? I don't think so. How much of his fortune has David Beckham ever donated for example? He has a chance to experience a new country and culture (Japan) and perhaps win a rugby league world cup next year. He's taken life by the balls and good luck to him.
Posted 13:57 09th July 2012
I'm sad to see him go but remember the main reason he converted to Union was because of the fall-out he had with the Bulldogs in 2008. The subsequent move to Toulon was probably for the money, but also because no NRL team would touch him at that stage. So really, Union only borrowed him for a while. Maybe his hart always stayed with League.
Posted 13:54 09th July 2012
It's a myth that it's a money vs greatness choice. Become a great and make money later. Anyone who heard Matfield commentating Eng vs SAf would wonder how he got the job... He confused Danny Care for Dan Cole! Foden for Goode, Hartley for Ashton. But he got the job because he's a great. SBW doesn't get the big picture he just sees short term and when he gets it it will be too late. Money will come what ever he does.... of course he could have refused Japan. Oz move fine if he enjoys league more but Japan move is just daft.
Posted 12:51 09th July 2012
I don't know if it's the media's doing, but this guy has come across as a real chop. Either way next season it'll be Sonny Bill Who...
Posted 12:46 09th July 2012
There's a huge amount of what might have been with Sonny-Bill. There's no problem with his decisions. They are his to make and no one can question that.
The issue is Sonny is not really a rugby tragic like many of us; he sees rugby as a means to an end because he never grew up in the sport. That's his choice; as he says he's chosen his path now he needs to walk it. But good luck to him. His contribution has been great and he has developed a number of close friends in rugby. I think he will miss them. I met him. He's also a good bloke.
Posted 12:30 09th July 2012
This guy just chases the dollars.There's nothing wrong with that but I would much prefer he was just honest about it
Posted 12:27 09th July 2012
Jack of all trades. Master of none.
Oh and he forgot that there is no I in team again on Saturday to blow overlap for try.
Posted 12:12 09th July 2012
I hope the Roosters dont think he will actually turn up?
Posted 11:36 09th July 2012
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